This is really a very interesting subject. I did not reply to the other thread so I will reply here.
I am a silly old electrical fitter who has fallen on his backside more times than you can poke a stick at. Started my apprenticeship (5 years with employer and 4 years at tech college) in 1959. YES!!! That old. For those from elsewhere in the world, an electrical fitter in Ozz used to do everything. Started winding motors, rebuilding slip rings, rebuilding commutators (really big ones up to 3 metres in diameter), rebuilding transformers, machining new motor shafts, welding, sheet metal work, patching walls - you name it. Sometimes miss the "good old days".
As a second year apprentice my employer discovered I had a "bent" for design. As a second year apprentice I was working for the design electrical engineer designing 11, 22 and 33kV transformers (distribution - poles and pad mounts). As a third year apprentice I was designing control systems, choke welders, high frequency welders, spot welders, drink mixers (milk shake mixers) etc. During these two years I was also building power switch boards and very complex control panels. No duct in those days, just 1 mm solid PVC and one had to tie all the looms. If the boss could "see" a wire coming out of the loom any where near the top, a knife went through it and you did it again.
When I went into fourth year they moved me on to a building site to get some "wire jerking" experience. The worst job ever. Then on to service work - breakdowns on machines, cranes you name it. Not a drawing in site and 30 workers sitting around with nothing to do. Soon learned to think on my feet. Loved it.
Went into fifth year, had finished tech college and enrolled for an industrial electronics course. Transistors were brand new, SSRs did not exist, nor did most of the ICs, diodes etc we take for granted these days.
Finished fifth year and enrolled for the Electrical Engineering Certificate course at tech. Carried a certificate but not a diploma or degree. Was much more practical than the University course but did not carry much of an increase in pay unfortunately.
Finished that and then went and did some electives from the instrumentation course such as temperature measurement etc etc. All the time I was still doing breakdown work and winding very large, complex motors. Armatures with three layers of windings, duplex and triplex winding styles, vari speed motors with slip rings on one end and a commutator on the other etc. Also wound a lot of HV motors up to 33 kV.
Left the company and went to run a service department for a hot water company. Oh, forgot to mention I was the assistant/relief service manager as well.
Then went into sales and management for 25 years. Got my management and marketing degrees at university. Ran some very large divisions of multi national companies. Started programming PLCs because we "had" to sell them. The customers knew a lot less than we did an we did not know much.
Got a tap on the shoulder from a customer and joined him, after seven bottles of good "big" Ozzie Shiraz and Cab Sauv. Suffered for days. Job involved design work, building control panels and PLC programming, commissioning etc. Got thrown in the deep end more often than I would like to mention but survived, learnt a lot and managed to surface out the other side. HV power stations even.
He closed the company down and at age 59 I decided to "go it alone". Pretty scary for an old fella who had nothing left in the can from divorce etc - not even a house - only a renter these days. Knocked back job offers from some very large multi national companies to "face the unknown". Best thing I ever did. The customers have come out of the woodwork so to speak, busier than I have ever been in my life, happier than I have ever been in my life - managed to find a good woman too - makes a great difference.
Still get offers from multi nationals but I will never fit into a big company environment again. Will not tolerate brown noses, back stabbers etc and have great pleasure in telling them exactly what they are even if they are number 2 on the company tree. By the way, I absolutely love the contribution to a running thread where someone put in a lot of really good information about workers and their star signs. I am an absolutely typical Scorpio - can you tell? - one thing missing from the decsription is "stubborn and pig headed". One missing from Saggi is "foot in mouth disease". will post a few more missings if I have time.
Still love showing young "smart a**e" electrical engineers fresh out of uni that they really know nothing about practicalities and the real world. Some are ggod though and are willing to learn. When one finds one of those a lot of learning can happen both ways.
Cheers.