What are the Standards for integrating PLc's into Mech Press Controls?

price43

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Does anyone know what standards apply to and how to implement a dual PLC configuration into a mechanical press clutch / brake control?

We have a number of presses using dual Mitsubishi F2's to parallel process and compare inputs then process outputs to operate punch presses.
We are processing the outputs form the PLC's through standard ice cube relays. I'm not sure if this complies with safety requirements.
Any help would be appreciated.
 
price43 said:
Does anyone know what standards apply to and how to implement a dual PLC configuration into a mechanical press clutch / brake control?

We have a number of presses using dual Mitsubishi F2's to parallel process and compare inputs then process outputs to operate punch presses.
We are processing the outputs form the PLC's through standard ice cube relays. I'm not sure if this complies with safety requirements.
Any help would be appreciated.

I dont know about the US but over here in EuroLand (God i hate that) i mean really the Uk!!

This would not comply depending on manufacture date and if its been moved, you would have to comply with all the extra EN regulations on Mechanical Press with clutch/brake, this would be done with something like a Siemens or Pilz specialised safety control system.

I am sure someone from the US will jump and and set you straight.
 
Sure I think you could do it but would you want to. I would recommend going with some type of press controller. If the presses already have the controllers they may "Grandfather" in some of the safety. Sometimes you are required to upgrade these controls sometime you can live with them.

Check out this press control. They put safety guidelines in their manuals so you may want to download one of them to look at.

http://www.pressroomelectronics.com/
 
Mechanical Presses are unique beast in many ways

When CharlesM is saying "may Grandfather in some safety", he is referring to the particular OHSA inspector that you are dealing with. By law mechanical presses are not grandfathered into any regulations. If they pass new regulations this year for mechanical presses and your have the latest safety controls from last year, your in violation

Operators of mechanical presses require special training. It's not like regular machines where an operator should know how to run the equipment and the saftey aspects of it, mechanical press operators must know how to block the press up during maintenance, whether it is a full or partial rev press, and the inner workings of the particular style press. Operators must also be periodically retrained. We got wrote up for this one at a company I worked for if you don't believe me.

While obviously you must keep these presses up to code, I would begin looking at replacing these presses with hydraulic versions in the long run. The plant I worked at used mechanical presses exclusively when I started working there. Aside from the cost of keeping then in compliance with OSHA, the cost of repairing these presses when they break is outrageous. Parts are getting harder to find and less people are willing to do any work on them because of the liability. We used this alone to justify the cost of there replacement. When I left the company there was only one of these presses left in operation and it was scheduled to be taken out of service within the year
 

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