ARND-8127 devicenet

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im starting a durabilt drive from GE and dont have the correct EDS for devicenet, were using the ARND-8127 devicenet communication card, a technician from GE give me a EDS but doesnt work, make a EDS with the EDS Wizard, and neither.
this is the EDS:
[Device]
VendCode = 0x47;
VendName = "Toshiba International Corp.";
ProdType = 0x2;
ProdTypeStr = "AC Drive";
ProdCode = 0xa;
MajRev = 0x1;
MinRev = 0xff;
ProdName = "DB5I_GE";
Catalog = "";
[IO_Info]
Default = 0x01;
PollInfo = 0x01, 1, 1;
Input1 = 8,0,0,"Input1",,,"No Help";
Output1 = 8,0,0,"Output1",,,"No Help";

any suggestion????
does it have any trick????
does any one have it????

best regards rpg
 
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Did that EDS come from GE, or was it built by the RSNetworx for DeviceNet EDS wizard ? It's incomplete, as it lacks a [File] section and the I/O definition is incomplete.

Try this out:

$ DeviceNet EDS File

[File]
DescText = "Some Things You Gotta Do Yourself";
CreateDate = 04-08-2008;
CreateTime = 08:34:53;
ModDate = 04-08-2008;
ModTime = 08:34:53;
Revision = 1.0;
[Device]
VendCode = 0x47;
VendName = "Toshiba International Corp.";
ProdType = 0x2;
ProdTypeStr = "AC Drive";
ProdCode = 0xa;
MajRev = 0x1;
MinRev = 0xff;
ProdName = "DB5I_GE";
Catalog = "";
[IO_Info]
Default = 0x0001;
PollInfo = 0x0001, 1, 1;
Input1 = 8,0,0,"Input1",6,"20 07 24 01 30 04","Default 8 byte Input Assembly";
Output1 = 8,0,0,"Output1",6,"20 07 02 30 04","Default 8 bytes Output Assembly";

Can you point to any documentation about this DeviceNet interface ?
 
lol sorry men well it really have the [file] section actually this is the complete EDS file ( witout coments $ )


[File]
DescText = "This is an EDS file created by Rockwell Software's EDS Installation Wizard.";
CreateDate = 08-31-2001;
CreateTime = 11:11:11;
ModDate = 08-31-2001;
ModTime = 11:11:11;
Revision = 0.1;
[Device]
VendCode = 0x47;
VendName = "Toshiba International Corp.";
ProdType = 0x2;
ProdTypeStr = "AC Drive";
ProdCode = 0xA;
MajRev = 0x1;
MinRev = 0x0;
ProdName = "Tosvert u/s250";
Catalog = "";
[IO_Info]
Default = 0x01;
PollInfo = 0x01, 1, 1;
Input1 = 8,0,0,"Input1",,,"No Help";
Output1 = 8,0,0,"Output1",,,"No Help";

and yes i do this eds file cuse GE guys send us a Word file with this.

found this manual but only have the mapping of the devicenet card
http://www.tmge.com/upload/library_docs/english/6F3A4768-rev4_1150836738.pdf

hey men can you explain this????

[IO_Info]
Default = 0x0001;
PollInfo = 0x0001, 1, 1;
Input1 = 8,0,0,"Input1",6,"20 07 24 01 30 04","Default 8 byte Input Assembly";
Output1 = 8,0,0,"Output1",6,"20 07 02 30 04","Default 8 bytes Output Assembly";

understand that 8´s means bytes of i/o but everything else???

my regards roger garcia
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I hope you got a really good discount on those drives.

The EDS Wizard in RSNetworx cannot create full EDS files from non-Rockwell drives because they don't always conform to the full ODVA specification for the Identity, Assembly, and Parameter Objects.

You see in the RSNetworx-created EDS file that two fields were skipped:

Input1 = 8,0,0,"Input1",,,"No Help";
Output1 = 8,0,0,"Output1",,,"No Help";

I filled those in with my best guess for the I/O Assembly Path, which is the common Register Object. The "6" is the length of the I/O Assembly Path, and the six-byte value that follows is the standard definition for the Register Object: Class 0x07, Instances 1 and 2, Attribute 0x04.

"20 07 24 01 30 04"

The PDF file you posted has important clues that indicate my guess was wrong. On page 63, it mentions that the I/O assembly in the default "4W/4W" mode is the ODVA standard Assemblies 23 and 73, and cites an ODVA document (Volume II, Release 1.2).

Those values ring a bell. They are common I/O assemblies used with the ODVA AC Drive device profile, and are in the CIP Common Specification Edition 3.2, Chapter 6, Part 1. In my copy they are on page 6-62.

But the GE/Toshiba/Mitsubishi drive is only partially compliant. You see in the PDF file you provided that the four 16-bit Words of Input data include:

Status
Speed Feedback
Torque Feedback
Process Feedback

But Assembly 73 is by definition only 3 Words long, and does not contain the Process Feedback.

So what they meant to say is "We're calling it a standard assembly, and probably addressing it like the standard assembly, but we added two words so it's a different size than standard."

ACDRIVE_23_73.PNG
 
Change the IO section of your EDS file to this:

[IO_Info]
Default = 0x0001;
PollInfo = 0x0001, 1, 1;
Input1 = 8,0,0,"Input1",6,"20 04 24 73 30 03","4W/4W Input Assembly";
Output1 = 8,0,0,"Output1",6,"20 04 24 23 30 03","4W/4W Output Assembly";


The "Path" to Input Object 1 indicates "Class 0x04 (Assembly), Instance 0x73, Attribute 0x03".

The "Path" to Output Object 1 indicates "Class 0x04 (Assembly), Instance 0x23, Attribute 0x03"


I think it is really your vendor's responsibility to supply you with an accurate EDS file if they are going to advertise a drive with DeviceNet interface capability.
 
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thanks for that explanation really wanna know more about devicenet, can you sendme a link for get that manual??? make adjusts to one EDS is awesome,

ill try the modification on the eds, and se what happens, the technician of GE (whos startting the drive)tellsme that that eds is the one with the communication card T_T

yeah i know, is hard to work without the appropiate tools. send a e-mail to GE people, asking for the EDS, and some advices if needed.

really appreciate your help, thanks
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