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PLCRookie
February 12th, 2010, 12:01 PM
All,
I am trying to upload a PV+600 file from running application in order to add some code, but I get the following error " The RSLinx Enterprise COMM link Tree ActiveX control could not be loaded".

Everything looks ok in RSlinx... I can see the CLX, PV, and all other devices....this is new to me.

I did get a new laptop recently...

Any help appreciated.....

OK.... That should be RS View.......

TheStarr
February 12th, 2010, 12:31 PM
From what I can tell, your RSLinx is not installed correctly.

The only fix is to reinstall.

Or maybe your missing an update or driver required on your new laptop for RSLinx to work properly.

Are you still using XP on your new laptop?

Not sure if RSLinx is fully compatible with the newer OSs.

PLCRookie
February 12th, 2010, 12:40 PM
Thanks for the reply, Starr.

I will just have to bit the bullet and re-install, I guess.

I am experiencing some weird problems with this PC. Apparently, it belonged to another employee some time ago.

I also cannot get the wireless (to the plant network) to work while I am online thru the wired port. If I disable the wireless, the wire comes back up, fine. Never had that problem before with the other laptop. Today, all of my firewall exceptions that I used only yesterday were deleted. :bonkhead:

Could be the IT guys I guess

Today is a wash.....we are going home early, apparently a "blizzard" is on the way....we may get 2 inches.

:doh:

Thanks again

PLCRookie
February 12th, 2010, 12:54 PM
Same problem after Re-install.

Maybe a problem with ActiveX controls?

I will try the AB site for help..
:doh::doh::doh:

gravedigger02
February 12th, 2010, 01:11 PM
Is it V5.0

PLCRookie
February 12th, 2010, 01:15 PM
Linx Classic.
Lite Version 2.51

No luck yet.

TheStarr
February 12th, 2010, 01:16 PM
Sorry the re-install didn't work.

I have a Dell D630 that does the same network thing, either wireless or ethernet, but not both at the same time.

Computer guys said that this computer only has one NIC that handles wireless and ethernet. So it was only capable of having one IP at a time which is not compatible with dual connections.(???)

gravedigger02
February 12th, 2010, 01:19 PM
Rslinx and Rslinx Enterprise are not the same thing. You might not have Rslinx enterprise installed.

TheStarr
February 12th, 2010, 01:26 PM
Good catch! Looks like it is time for a call to the AB dealer.

Not sure what it will cost, but I know we dropped $800 for RSLinx OEM which is a lower version.

I'm betting $1200+.

http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/gr/lnxent-gr001_-en-p.pdf

PLCRookie
February 12th, 2010, 01:36 PM
RSLinx Classis Lite Version 2.51.

This has always worked for me in the past.........

I found a technote #35076 in the RA database, but I do not have a tech connect contract.

I love AB, I love AB, I love AB......

:wish:

TheStarr
February 12th, 2010, 01:44 PM
Ok, I guess we should start from the begining.

You have a PV+600.

Are you trying to communicate using RS232 or an optional ethernet port?

I believe enterprise is required for ethernet comms, but not sure about RS232.

PLCRookie
February 12th, 2010, 01:48 PM
PV+600.
Ethernet/IP.

I have done this before with the exact same software.

Looks as though it could be a problem in RSView, not RSLinx.
I cannot read the full tech note, but it seems to infer something about the set-up of the panel in RSView.

Thanks for the help.

TheStarr
February 12th, 2010, 02:02 PM
{Insert foot in mouth}

You are correct, RSLinx Classic does support the PV+600.

So what now........ back to searching.

robw53
February 12th, 2010, 02:34 PM
well a subject which is close to my heart at the moment, as i have had to write alot of screens from scratch as we didnt have the .APA file and it wasnt created with version 5.00 which if it was then you can use the application manager to restore the application to an .APA file so unless you have the .APA file or if it was created in version 5.00 then you cannot actually modify an existing run time file .MER

Rob

OkiePC
February 12th, 2010, 02:37 PM
It's not RSLinx Classic (which is what they call the regular standalone comm software now) that needs to be re- installed

RSLinx Enterprise needs to be re-installed. It should be one of the options when you run the RSView Studio (or FactoryTalk View Studio) CD...

Paul

PLCRookie
February 12th, 2010, 03:18 PM
Thanks for that, Paul
I did not realize that RSView installed RSLinx Enterprise.
I will try to re-install RSView on Monday.

My facility will be shutting down soon, so it will really be SEP (someone else's problem), I just was trying to get it changed now. Good to know.

I'll post back if it works.

Thanks to all for the effort!

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Ken Roach
February 13th, 2010, 03:46 AM
I wanted to chime in to reiterate:

RSLinx Classic is the communication software suite that is used natively by RSLogix and PanelBuilder32 and DriveTools and other A-B software products. It can also be used as an OPC data server by RSView32, RSView/FTView SE&ME and as a DDE data server by clients like Excel.

RSLinx Classic has been around forever; it had a WinLinx predecessor for Windows 3.1, and it still supports software calls that were written for the DOS-based INTERCHANGE software in the 1980's.

RSLinx Enterprise has a limited role: it is the data server for FactoryTalk View SE and ME, and it is used as the transport mechanism for FTView ME *.MER projects.

A typical day for a ControlLogix and PanelView Plus user includes configuring and using RSLinx Classic to upload/download and go online with his or her ControlLogix controllers and networks, and then configuring and using RSLinx Enterprise specifically to upload/download and test the PanelView Plus projects and applications.

RSLinx Enterprise is included in the price of and included in the installation of FactoryTalk View ME. You can manually skip the installation of RSLinx Enterprise, but by default it will be installed along with FactoryTalk View Studio. The embedded version of RSLinx Enterprise that runs inside the PanelView Plus terminal is built-in at the factory and does not require installation or activation.

Ken Roach
February 13th, 2010, 03:52 AM
Taking a step back to the PV+600 and the process of uploading and editing a project:

PanelBuilder32 and the Standard PanelView products supported this kind of process; you could easily upload a *.PVA PanelView application file and convert it to a *.PBA PanelBuilder Application File. In fact, to prevent this you had to perform a registry edit that would cause PVA's to omit the uploadable data.

RSView Studio did not include this feature in v3.x or 4.x. In Version 5, aka FactoryTalk View, this feature was added and given a little more explicit functionality: you can make a *.MER runtime file convertible into a Project file, or you can disable that functionality.

The feature isn't retroactive; the project has to have been created in version 5.0 or 5.1 in the first place.

There are some manual ways to recover much of a project from a runtime file, but these are messy.

The best practice, of course, is to store an application archive (*.APA) near the PanelView Plus terminal. I load mine onto removable CompactFlash and put them in a non-RA folder.

Ken Roach
February 13th, 2010, 04:01 AM
Last post from me on the topic:

Sometime last year our IT department pushed a patch or utility that automatically disables the wireless connection when a wired Ethernet link is established. 90% of RA field people run Dell Latitude D610 or D630 notebooks.

I know for sure that these Dells could simultaneously support both wired and wireless connections... the chipsets and adapters are very clearly shown in the hardware configuration of the PC. But it was easy to accidentally get your subnets crossed up and accidentally link to default WiFi access points, so I think it's sensible for the majority of users.

For me, the benefit was that I wouldn't inadvertently leave my WiFi radio on while connected to hardwired Ethernet and drain my battery faster.

I do run PCMCIA Ethernet adapters in promiscuous capture mode when I am doing network analysis and whatever tool they installed doesn't interfere with those.

PLCRookie
February 13th, 2010, 08:57 AM
Thanks for the explaination, Ken. I really struggle with the RA stuff sometimes, as I have many different brands of PLCs and devices (and resulting software) to deal with.

Regarding the wire/wireless issue, I also use a Dell Latitude, but I don't recall having the wire/wireless problem before. In fact, I was just online to a Banner camera days before (thru ethernet), and had no trouble with the wireless network while I was connected to the Banner.

Also, when I go to re-install RSView, I assume that I need to move the activation back to the disk before un-installing RSView?

Thanks again for the help.

:nerves:

Ken Roach
February 13th, 2010, 09:14 AM
If you are still using a diskette-based activation (EVRSI), there is a small risk of damage to the activation file if you perform install/uninstall of software with the activation installed on your hard drive. I've never had it happen to me in 15 years of using RSI products, but I've heard of other occurrences.

All that is really necessary is to shut down all RA software that uses the diskette-based activation before you perform uninstall/reinstall, and the modern installers generally check to make sure there are no running programs that will conflict with the installer.

If it were up to me, I would install FactoryTalk View Studio ME version 5.10. instead of any previous version. It will support all previous PV+ firmware revisions, as well as current features.