Simple request

Am learning CLICK PLC. On pg 51/52 in his book, Phil describes a ladder for a FLIP-FLOP. The first rung is a N.O. P/B, labeled 0000 followed by a "DIFU", labeled 1000. The rung continues to the right side ladder upright. When I tried to duplicate this in the CLICK editor, it won't let me use the DIFU as anything else but an input. And, in his ladder, he shows no output coil. What's going on???

Phil is using generic types of instructions which may not be present in that form in all PLCs. Using his books you will need to translate what he shows into appropriate instructions in your own PLC, for you the Click.

For the Click the OUT instruction with the 'One Shot' box checked should function the same as his example.

Simple question ... Thanks!!!

Bernie,
THANKS!!! You betcha this IS confusing! Unfortunately as good as they are with other things, AUTOMATION DIRECT seems to have dropped the ball when it comes to the CLICK manuals. While they DO provide a Hardware Manual, they have no Software Manual, except for their own fellow who teaches a course in CLICK programming. But, for several reasons I cannot avail myself of that option.
And, to make matters worse for me is that I bought Frank Petruzella's book also, and that is even more confusing to me since it is more A-B centric.

I found the help file to be very inclusive, more thorough than most. It has introductory videos, a thorough description of each instruction and the 'reference' section has a ton of useful information.

re: SIMPLE QUESTION

I have the HELP file open also, BUT I don't see where there are any introductory videos, etc. that you mentioned.
This IS very frustrating to me. I wish that I could have controlled this latest production machine w/ the microcontrollers which I can program in my sleep. I have no problem writing great Assembler, BASIC or C, but this Ladder stuff is throwing me some heavy-duty curves..... maybe I'm just too old for this nonsense!!!

You can get to the videos that we have online here.

Scroll over to the right on the right hand window several times to get to the Click section.

Clickerguy - don't worry. I went through almost exactly the same progression of languages as you (BASIC/Assembler reversed) and figured out ladder.

Hi Clickerguy,

You can also find a bunch of help on Youtube I have watched a few... I love the Click PLC and the software see here
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=click+plc

For the flip flop you may want to try this, its wrote for a AB plc but you should be able to do the same for the click http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/showpost.php?p=504096&postcount=4

geniusintraining said:

Hi Clickerguy,

For the flip flop you may want to try this, its wrote for a AB plc but you should be able to do the same for the click http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/showpost.php?p=504096&postcount=4

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Can someone explain this to me? I don't follow the logic.

This may help.. or hurt http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/showthread.php?t=22175

The first rung creates a one-shot in B3:0/1. It turns on for one scan each time B3:0/0 changes from OFF to ON.

The top part of the second run (energized when the one-shot is triggered) sends the opposite of the current output (O:8/5) to that output. The bottom part is operational on all other scans and just maintains (latches) the current state of the output. Thus the state of the output toggles for each TURN ON of B3:0/0

bernie_carlton said:

Clickerguy - don't worry. I went through almost exactly the same progression of languages as you (BASIC/Assembler reversed) and figured out ladder.

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Well, Bernie, I sure hope you're correct. For some reason, maybe my age, it's just not clicking (no pun intended!)into place like these things used to. Obviously, I'm NOT going to give up, but I'm getting more & more frustrated because I realize there's a "gap" between the textbook information AND the real world. And, I'm NOT just referring to the difference due to the various manufacturers' own adaptations. I need to get this machine finished and on the floor to be useful. It's been almost one year in design, and we need it. So, that is also weighing heavily on my mind. I've contacted 3 independent LADDER specialists already to facilitate this. While all have indicated that it is a trivial exercise, no one has come forth w/ an estimate of cost & time to complete. So, on that basis, I've had to jump in to this phase of the design myself. I CERTAINLY DO appreciate all the good advice I've received so far from my original post. It's very refreshing to see how many people ARE willing to assist. Even one of the fellows @ AUTOMATION DIRECT told me I could call him as much as needed for programming assistance. That is also a wonderful thing, considering the original sale was only a couple of hundred dollars!!!!

icky812 said:

You can get to the videos that we have online here.

Scroll over to the right on the right hand window several times to get to the Click section.

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THANK YOU! I have the CLICK mounted on the machine, and all the active I/O ports are wired correctly. This controller is configured w/ the better P/S, the 8/6 CPU module, a 16-input (PNP) module & a 16-output PNP module. What I am accustomed to from all my previous programming learning experiences, is a physical printed book with ALL the commands, functions, etc. individually itemized and explained, with a real-world example within each topic. For me, it presents a logical approach, something akin to a buiding-block approach, to write effective & concise programs. What I like about this concept is that I can make individual notes, highlight a certain sentence fragment, etc. which aids me in absorbing & retaining the information presented. Maybe this method of learning is "neandrethal", but it's served me well for the better part of 60 years or so.

Yeah, all us young'ns like our manuals in pdf form on the 2nd monitor

You can buy a printed version of the book for the hardware, but you may have to print your own for the software manual...

OkiePC said:

Yeah, all us young'ns like our manuals in pdf form on the 2nd monitor

You can buy a printed version of the book for the hardware, but you may have to print your own for the software manual...

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I have the printed Hardware Manual! That's NOT the question. Wiring these things is trivial. In previous machines, I've used microcontrollers w/ 32 I/O ports max. But since I needed more, & since they are TTL devices, I designed external I/O port multiplexers to accommodate the machine needs. So, a few LS-TTL or CMOS chips, and I was "off to the races". These previous efforts have been running here for the better part of 15 yeras, and I've rarely looked back on them. Like I mentioned previously, there's a gap in my absorption, and that's what I'm trying to solve.