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ganutenator November 17th, 2020 10:10 PM
writing an hmi from scratch using VB
 
Anyone have any experience doing this?
Is this too much of an undertaking to consider?
What are the biggest hurdles?
My guesses of the biggest hurdles:
SSL email, text message api
alarm history
modbus tcp driver

_Dock_ November 17th, 2020 10:18 PM
Lots and lots of machine tool manufacturers us VB for the operator interface, but those controls are usually all PC based.

So, to answer your question it depends. If you had a giant production line I’d say you’d be reinventing the wheel. If you had a stand alone machine I’d say go for it.

GaryS November 17th, 2020 11:36 PM
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The answer to your question is me
I have completed quit a few VB and Net Studio HMI's
i actually prefer it. It's far more flexible
the attached is a main screen done completely in Net Studio

janner_10 November 18th, 2020 01:10 AM
The truck hasn't aged well.

parky November 18th, 2020 03:57 AM
The cost/time of making an HMI from scratch is probably not worth it.
I have done this for a company for a standard piece of plant but it got a bit too much regarding protocols for different PLC's depending on customers requirements etc. after all, why re-invent the wheel.

cardosocea November 18th, 2020 05:01 AM
I didn't know helicopters could transport banners...

Wouldn't Archie at Advanced HMI be someone that could provide some input on this?

ndzied1 November 18th, 2020 06:05 AM
If you want a taste of Vb HMI development without a lot of investment time, check out Advanced HMI.

damica1 November 18th, 2020 06:52 AM
All of that -- Super easy with "Ignition Scada".

Jmeadows7676 November 18th, 2020 08:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryS (Post 868107)
The answer to your question is me
I have completed quit a few VB and Net Studio HMI's
i actually prefer it. It's far more flexible
the attached is a main screen done completely in Net Studio
is this vb forms??
Did you design your own driver for communication?
I would like to play with this and have so experience in vb studio

drbitboy November 18th, 2020 10:39 AM
OT but related
 
OT


I have read that VB (Visual Basic) is approaching end of life. Do the various VB-using technologies (FT, AdvancedHMI, etc.) have a migration plan e.g. Visual C/C++ or Visual C#?

GaryS November 18th, 2020 10:54 AM
VB was rolled into Net Studio some time back
Net Studio is what Rockwell used to create Logix5000 and Panel View
Many other applications are created using it.
the one shown on the earlier post is actually Net Studio
i would venture to say the base program for most of the HMI programs is Net Studio
so don't think it's going where

kwade November 18th, 2020 12:36 PM
According to Paul Thurrott's article (link) ...
Microsoft is not killing vb.net, but will not develop any new features or evolve the language.

gbradley November 18th, 2020 01:08 PM
GaryS, that picture is awesome.
Are those the Sutter Buttes?

g.mccormick November 18th, 2020 02:40 PM
GaryS. That HMI is awesome. Is there any animation?

drbitboy November 18th, 2020 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kwade (Post 868161)
According to Paul Thurrott's article (link) ...
Microsoft is not killing vb.net, but will not develop any new features or evolve the language.



Yes, I overstated the case. I found one article that quoted VB (VB6?) as "the cockroach that can't be killed."


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