Looking for guidance on building a benchtop PID loop

spiritchill

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Hi all,

I just acquired a Micrologix 1100 and I am interested in getting components to build a PID loop. The purpose is just to help deepen my understanding of PID tuning. This is for my own personal education.

I have seen examples where people have used an analog controlled air valve blowing at a DC motor to generate volts for an analog input.

I was thinking another option would be to use a 0-10V DC pump running water through a flow meter.

Could anyone help guide me to some inexpensive components to build a bench top PID loop application? Preferably something that has a higher speed of variation than temperature control. I am trying to get a hold of the IF2OF2 expansion module so I can make use of 4-20ma or 0-10V analog I/O.

Real life examples of applications you have built would be extremely helpful. Direct links for online shopping would also be helpful (if permitted).

Thanks!
 
I was going to say temperature because that's the one I'm looking to do myself at home.
Though I was going to use a 12V kettle to do it... The rise time of temperature would be faster than a tonne of water and after each experiment, I could dump the water.

The other example, I've been toying with is this http://www2.vernier.com/sample_labs/EPV-12-pid_ping_pong_ball.pdf

But am not sure how you'd go on about it with a PLC.

You could, if you have the parts, also have a level control with PID with a tank, pump or proportional valve.

Other things I saw were:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fusr9eTceEo

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/jgafford/files/pid_demo.pdf

Edit:

One example I did at work was vacuum control in a reactor. The vacuum pump runs all the time and the vacuum is controlled via a "bleed" valve that lets air in to control the amount in the reactor. I've seen some tiny vacuum pumps on eBay... but I'm not sure how feasible this is as a small scale project.
 
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A temperature rig (like the kettle) is both relatively easy to make and easy to measure so that seems like a good candidate. A nice touch is that heat is typically a tad slow to spread in a medium: apply a burst of heat and it will take a while before you see the temperature increase on the thermometer.

Electricity and water: keep it safe.
 
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