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Old February 3rd, 2023, 01:40 PM   #1
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UPS in a PLC system

Looking for a UPS that integrates well into a L8xE Control logix installation.

We have used the AB 1609-D1500N Ethernet IP UPS's in the past, but they are now discontinued.

Would like to be able to pull UPS status and alarms into the PLC for HMI visibility.

Smaller 120VAC control probably less than 3KVA.
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Old February 3rd, 2023, 03:51 PM   #2
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There are modbus option cards for many UPS that would work for this.
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Old February 3rd, 2023, 04:27 PM   #3
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I use APC Surta or APC SRT UPS and also Falcon Electric.
Get the IO module, you can get UPS status form them.
I use UPS (1500 to 2000) to supply power to the whole control system.

If you want less power... Phoenix Contact Quint supports Ethernet IP.
https://www.phoenixcontact.com/en-us...c20eip-2907074
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Old February 3rd, 2023, 10:11 PM   #4
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Beckhoff has a few models available that have digital I/O for the various UPS status, alarms, etc., so you can use them in non-Beckhoff applications. Power input is via your 24VDC power supply. We use them in all of our machines.

CU8110-0060
CU8110-0120
CU8130-0120
CU8131-0240
C9900-U330
C9900-U332
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How you like the Falcons? I deployed several but they are too young to evaluate. I bought them for their temp range but their Modbus was some 3rd party dongle kind of thing so I didn't opt for it. If you did, how is it?
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How you like the Falcons? I deployed several but they are too young to evaluate. I bought them for their temp range but their Modbus was some 3rd party dongle kind of thing so I didn't opt for it. If you did, how is it?
I like the Falcons a lot. Very fast delivery and support. Pretty durable, I have a few that have been installed for 3 years. The display is a little odd and takes a little understanding, but it looks cool. It would be nice if info was a little more straight forward, but the graphic display is universal language...

The strange thing I recently found out with them was the UPS does not like grounded neutral on the output?? I had to add a transformer on the supply side of the UPS to supply ungrounded 120V power to the primary of the transformer (from the UPS) and my controls on the secondary with a grounded neutral.
The oddest thing is The other 3 Falcons out there are running fine on grounded neutral from UPS.
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Yea, that display is indeed odd, a very Jetsons vibe to it.

All mine are grounded neutral and I have not seen that problem. Did have one where that E-stop contact was not jumpered. that was fun.
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Yea, that display is indeed odd, a very Jetsons vibe to it.

All mine are grounded neutral and I have not seen that problem. Did have one where that E-stop contact was not jumpered. that was fun.
By E-Stop, you mean the "Remote Emergency Power Off (REPO)"? I use that to shut down the UPS when control power is turned off.
I also use the UA88376-SSG board to allow remote monitoring of the unit by the plc and also a hardwire kit to remove the inlet/outlet plugs.
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