Connecting Historian SE on one PC to FactoryTalk View Studio on another PC.

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I have a functioning setup on one PC using Factorytalk view studio SE and Studio 5000. It is running code on the plc and everything is running as it should. Now I am trying to add Historian to the mix to make some graphs using some of the tags and I am just not having very much luck. Historian is installed already but I don't know how to make Historian connect to view studio and add tags to the historian server. Im having a very hard time with historian.

Assume that I have a fresh install of historian on one PC and a fully functional plc setup with View Studio on another. How do I take two tags from the second pc and turn that into a graph on the historian pc?
 
Have you set up the Factory Talk Live Data Interfaces?

FTHistorian is an unwieldy beast and nothing is simple with it...
 
I'd be very careful when interacting with a FTHSE system.
I doubt you have a Historian SE Server running on a PC; FTHSE needs to operate on a Server Class machine running a Windows Server operating system. It also needs significant storage capacity.
The dedicated "front-end" for FTHSE is the FactoryTalk VantagePoint system; FTVP is a SQL based aggregate, connected to the FTHSE archives' database and intended to create a user defined visual interface.
http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/in/hse-in025_-en-e.pdf
http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/hseld-um024_-en-e.pdf
 
FTHistorian is re-badged OSI PI and work about the same, I believe. If it works like I suspected, then you will need to install the interface which in this case would probably be a OPC interface which connects with a OPC server then send the data to FTH.

I just read the first few pages of the install guide, so did you install RSLinx Enterprise and Interface yet? You have read the install guide, right?
 
OH, even though you are not supposed to installed FTH Se on workstation OS, it will works but you need to also do a lot of work-around like getting SQL server to work, etc..

It's one of the toughest install I ever done, that's for sure and that's saying a lot dealing with Rockwell stuff over the years.
 
@dmargineau, it is installed on windows server 2012 VM and the server is indeed "running". Is it configured properly? I have no idea. But I ran "Start Historian server" and the console says it is running. I can see FT view studio files over the network by changing the directory to the 2nd pcs name. I am looking at it through administration console.
 
@dmargineau, it is installed on windows server 2012 VM and the server is indeed "running". Is it configured properly? I have no idea. But I ran "Start Historian server" and the console says it is running. I can see FT view studio files over the network by changing the directory to the 2nd pcs name. I am looking at it through administration console.

What is your final goal?
FTHSE is a data collection system; said data is "time-series" recorded and not relational like mainstream SQL type ones.
There are (literally) thousands of pages of literature (some freely available, some not) that needs to be comprehended before one could safely access and manipulate Historian SE data without interfering with the proper system functionality.
FactoryTalk Live Data Inteface -FTLD is the FTHSE dedicated Logix platform data collection interface and it is using Linx Enterprise as data server.
Read the second posted link for the installation and configuration instructions.
 
@dmargineau, Final goal is to make graphs from tags.

@ASF, Hair is already being pulled out which is why I posted to PLCS.net lol. "Hey, we should make a product that costs a **** ton of money but also make it impossible for anybody to use without years of experience and days upon days of time to read a multiple manuals"
 
@ASF, Hair is already being pulled out which is why I posted to PLCS.net lol. "Hey, we should make a product that costs a **** ton of money but also make it impossible for anybody to use without years of experience and days upon days of time to read a multiple manuals"

Yeah. There's a fuzzy line between "automation engineer" and "IT technician", and to be perfectly honest, historians in general are probably on the far side of that line. Keep in mind that FTHistorian is for all intents and purposes a re-badged copy of PI, and PI is not PLC-programmer-level stuff. There are IT specialists who do nothing else but PI. I think Microsoft use PI to monitor and report on their data centres. Realistically, you're going to need some decent IT support, or to invest a whole lot of time, effort and energy into learning a lot of new things.

Good luck!
 
@dmargineau, No. My understanding is that historian just collects values from whatever tags it is connected to at a set interval. So that it can then be graphed. If this is true, what needs to happen for me to select the tags I want monitored in my historian server?
 
Is the data you are intended to trend being collected already?
This!

We need to know how far along in the process you are. PI is similar to a SQL server in that it can be running just fine and you would have no idea. Your best friend is the PI (or whatever Rockwell call it) System Management Tool or SMT. It allows you to see how well the server is running and what tags are in there. You can also use it to add/delete/change tags.

Go to Youtube and look up some SMT basic.

and relax, it's not supposed to be easy. There are specialists out there that does nothing but PI.

hey, speaking of PI, it's PI day today.
 

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