What job title are you working under?

rpoet said:

... but because "Engineer" has a legally codified meaning, and I'm not a licensed PE.

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Reference "Industry Exception". While states will have varying requirements, if a company is providing "Engineering" services that doesn't necessarily mean all "Engineers" are required to be licensed PEs. Given the bulk of automation work hardly much of it could be stamped aside from electrical prints which I have never seen done or been told it's a requirement. Generally speaking automation is an exception. We aren't offering services that directly impact the public health and safety.

Based on a power point ISA put out in 2009, ~ 1% of automation professionals passed the CSE discipline of the PE which you would think would be the preferable discipline. If someone in automation has a PE it's probably electrical power, or who knows Mechanical/Chemical disciplines, so should they really be an "Engineer" in the world of automation without passing the CSE discipline?

I do feel the title of "Engineer" should be formalized and enforced, but in the world of automation that is extremely hard to regulate/control. I believe Canada is pretty strict with the use of "Engineer" in a title.

Titles I have seen:

Systems Integrator - Controls Engineer, Industrial Programmer.

Automation Sales - Automation Application Engineer, Automation Specialist

Manufacturing Plant - Controls Technician, Automation Technician, Maintenance Technician, Controls Engineer

Corporate - Senior Engineer, Principle Engineer

I would be curious to see how many companies that give a person a title with the role of "Engineer" actually verify that they have a 4 year engineering degree from EAC/ABET accredited program. Plenty of people who are in controls "fell" into it and hold an engineer title.

but be careful up in Oregon – especially when programming traffic lights ...

and along the lines of "automation engineers" who really aren't officially recognized – here's a recent news article – which I'll post mostly for entertainment value ...

An Oregon man has been fined $500 by the state government for suggesting that yellow traffic lights should last slightly longer.

The Oregon State Board of Examiners for Engineering and Land Surveying hit Mats Jarlstrom with a fine for unlawfully engaging in the “practice of engineering” by studying the state’s traffic flow systems.

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https://heatst.com/life/man-fined-500-for-criticizing-traffic-lights-system/

taken full-circle, it looks like some of our favorite beginner-level student projects for PLC programmers might get us slapped with a fine - and maybe even an arrest record ...

you can't make this stuff up, folks ...

In my company they really like to name everything in English
I was Electrician then Technical services engineer and now Automation/Electrical Technician.

But i prefer Company Prostitute, apparently the company doesn't agree with me