You are not registered yet. Please click here to register!


 
 
plc storereviewsdownloads
This board is for PLC Related Q&A ONLY. Please DON'T use it for advertising, etc.
 
Try our online PLC Simulator- FREE.  Click here now to try it.

---------->>>>>Get FREE PLC Programming Tips

New Here? Please read this important info!!!


Go Back   PLCS.net - Interactive Q & A > PLCS.net - Interactive Q & A > LIVE PLC Questions And Answers

PLC training tools sale

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old January 18th, 2020, 09:11 AM   #1
drbitboy
Lifetime Supporting Member
United States

drbitboy is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Williamsburg, Virginia
Posts: 198
You get what you pay for

Complete, absolute newbie with hardware here.

Update: 3(.3)V backup battery is shot; a few millivolts across its contacts.

Can anyone please suggest possible symptoms of the four lights lit and nothing on the LCD in the image below? Is it possible the web server could be operating and provide some information?

Full-resolution image is here

This is an untested, no return, eBay purchase, so "it's a paperweight" is not an unexpected answer.

Thank you.


Last edited by drbitboy; January 18th, 2020 at 09:56 AM. Reason: Fix typo
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 11:00 AM   #2
Robobob
Lifetime Supporting Member
United States

Robobob is offline
 
Robobob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toledo
Posts: 226
Here is a link to the user manual. You have a hardware fault. See pages 207 thru 210.
http://literature.rockwellautomation...m001_-en-p.pdf
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 11:08 AM   #3
parky
Member
United Kingdom

parky is offline
 
parky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Midlands
Posts: 1,582
With all those lights on it sounds fatal to me It looks like a complete failure of the processor hardware & probably not the power supply, sorry about the pun but instead of the paperweight, you could use it as a bookend stop. or if you are really in a bad move flog it again on eBay, no refund. No really, Selling duff stuff on any site is bad, unless it states so, really gets my back up that people can be so unscrupulous, does nothing but give you a bad name as well as the site.

Last edited by parky; January 18th, 2020 at 11:12 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 11:14 AM   #4
rupej
Member
United States

rupej is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: NC
Posts: 718
I've never seen one do that. I would agree that it's toast.
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 11:16 AM   #5
geniusintraining
Lifetime Supporting Member + Moderator
United States

geniusintraining is offline
 
geniusintraining's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 6,676
Quote:
Originally Posted by drbitboy View Post
This is an untested, no return, eBay purchase, so "it's a paperweight" is not an unexpected answer.
I would say yes a paperweight, but I would also push back on ebay, just because its listed as untested and no returns, the seller cant list **** and be off the hook, it should of been listed as 'for parts'
__________________
www.PLCCable.com PLC Communication Cables, PLC Trainers, MicroLogix, ControlLogix, Siemens, Allen Bradley and more...OEM and aftermarket supplies... Aftermarket 1784-U2DHP Allen Bradley USB to DH+, new USB to 485 modbus
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 02:58 PM   #6
drbitboy
Lifetime Supporting Member
United States

drbitboy is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Williamsburg, Virginia
Posts: 198
And after I made that fancy cable'n all.

Thanks everyone.

It's my bad for not reading the full listing, like I usually do. Still, they have no business listing it at typical used prices.

I'll leave neutral feedback and remove the seller's 100% positive rating, for a while anyway.

Last edited by drbitboy; January 18th, 2020 at 03:04 PM. Reason: fix typo
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 03:15 PM   #7
AustralIan
Member
Germany

AustralIan is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,098
That's rubbish dude. Your first PLC
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 03:17 PM   #8
drbitboy
Lifetime Supporting Member
United States

drbitboy is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Williamsburg, Virginia
Posts: 198
Quote:
Originally Posted by AustralIan View Post
That's rubbish dude. Your first PLC
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 03:21 PM   #9
padees
Member
United States

padees is offline
 
padees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 495
Quote:
Originally Posted by geniusintraining View Post
I would say yes a paperweight, but I would also push back on ebay, just because its listed as untested and no returns, the seller cant list **** and be off the hook, it should of been listed as 'for parts'

Yeah, it's too small to be a door stop.

I use to do Ebay stuff and other online auctions in the US and Canada.

During my infatuation with this aspect of commerce, it was about $300K total exchange on ebay.

I only had one person in Cali give me a negative and cause issues on a factory sealed Mitutoyo Height Gauge. Absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Ebay made him send it back to me, which took a while, but it was the exact same I sent to Cali.

Some people can't pay for what they buy... Yep, we all want everything, but can you afford it?

I listed it again, and it sold within a few hours. New owner is quite happy with his purchase, and no disgruntled trolls...

Like Alice Cooper said, You even make your Grandma Sick!
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 03:37 PM   #10
Gene Bond
Member
United States

Gene Bond is offline
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 410
That does hit a raw nerve... Just got a dud from what appeared to be a good seller. I asked how they would like to handle it (before contacting Ebay), and they wanted to low-ball me (3 offers) so I finally went the Ebay Return to Seller route, and they refunded my $25.

It was a brand new, in the box, good looking little jump box I was planning to use for lawn mowers, ATVs, etc. But it was bad.

They didn't even want it back in the end...

It just offended me that they would try to low-ball me on a refund. They were whining about my having to pay return shipping (which is BS, Ebay says they have to pay for it), and having to return it to the manufacturer, etc. Last I knew, that was a cost of doing business?

Like was said, I'd check with Ebay on the return/refund. They don't want problems and seem to be quick at resolving things.
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 06:30 PM   #11
OkiePC
Lifetime Supporting Member
United States

OkiePC is offline
 
OkiePC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ENE of Nowhere Oklahoma
Posts: 10,395
This is why I only buy used stuff from Mark at PLCCable.com. Never had an issue and he will jump through hoops to get stuff to me in a hurry when needed.

https://www.plccable.com/micrologix-1100/
__________________
You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice. If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.

Last edited by OkiePC; January 18th, 2020 at 06:32 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 06:35 PM   #12
Aabeck
Member
United States

Aabeck is offline
 
Aabeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Detroit
Posts: 1,650
If it was listed as "used" om Ebay that includes in the description " but is fully operational and functions as intended"

File a official complaint with Ebay and use their 30 day refund - they will charge it back to the seller.
__________________
Never underestimate the quality of idiots that will be running your machines
http://aabeck.com
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 07:43 PM   #13
drbitboy
Lifetime Supporting Member
United States

drbitboy is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Williamsburg, Virginia
Posts: 198
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aabeck View Post
If it was listed as "used" om Ebay that includes in the description " but is fully operational and functions as intended"

File a official complaint with Ebay and use their 30 day refund - they will charge it back to the seller.
The full description is

Quote:
Used: An item that has been used previously. The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended. This item may be a floor model or store return that has been used. See the sellerís listing for full details and description of any imperfections
and in the seller's description it says:

Quote:
Condition is Used, Untested. Selling as it. [sic]
That last bit was obviously meant to be "as is."

The 'net is anarchy, and I am not a whiner: I know I blew it here; the most important thing is not the money but that I learned the lesson.
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2020, 09:53 PM   #14
RVaughan
Member
United States

RVaughan is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Michigan
Posts: 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by drbitboy View Post
The 'net is anarchy, and I am not a whiner: I know I blew it here; the most important thing is not the money but that I learned the lesson.
I appreciate your integrity.
Good on ya!
  Reply With Quote
Old January 19th, 2020, 04:46 AM   #15
janner_10
Lifetime Supporting Member
United Kingdom

janner_10 is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Tewkesbury
Posts: 908
Quote:
Originally Posted by drbitboy View Post

The 'net is anarchy, and I am not a whiner: I know I blew it here; the most important thing is not the money but that I learned the lesson.
It's not really a lesson, just a faulty bit of kit. Even the best sellers can suffer from this. Just make a complain and return, no drama. I'll wager the seller isn't even aware.

eBay is a great source of used and long-obsolete parts, it shouldn't be dismissed over 1 incident.
  Reply With Quote
Reply
Jump to Live PLC Question and Answer Forum

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why pay for PLC programming software? Stephen Luft LIVE PLC Questions And Answers 283 October 24th, 2015 08:58 AM
Onsite pay NEWB13 LIVE PLC Questions And Answers 18 December 11th, 2014 10:50 AM
pay per view on other fourms bce123 LIVE PLC Questions And Answers 3 September 11th, 2011 08:35 AM
Pay Off Reel Slowdown; encoder to PLC bbear LIVE PLC Questions And Answers 10 August 30th, 2010 02:19 PM
OT:What to Pay an Automation SalesGuy curlyandshemp LIVE PLC Questions And Answers 6 May 28th, 2009 10:40 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:14 PM.


.