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Old November 17th, 2020, 10:10 PM   #1
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writing an hmi from scratch using VB

Anyone have any experience doing this?
Is this too much of an undertaking to consider?
What are the biggest hurdles?
My guesses of the biggest hurdles:
SSL email, text message api
alarm history
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Old November 17th, 2020, 10:18 PM   #2
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Lots and lots of machine tool manufacturers us VB for the operator interface, but those controls are usually all PC based.

So, to answer your question it depends. If you had a giant production line I’d say you’d be reinventing the wheel. If you had a stand alone machine I’d say go for it.
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Old November 17th, 2020, 11:36 PM   #3
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The answer to your question is me
I have completed quit a few VB and Net Studio HMI's
i actually prefer it. It's far more flexible
the attached is a main screen done completely in Net Studio
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Old November 18th, 2020, 01:10 AM   #4
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Old November 18th, 2020, 03:57 AM   #5
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The cost/time of making an HMI from scratch is probably not worth it.
I have done this for a company for a standard piece of plant but it got a bit too much regarding protocols for different PLC's depending on customers requirements etc. after all, why re-invent the wheel.
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Old November 18th, 2020, 05:01 AM   #6
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I didn't know helicopters could transport banners...

Wouldn't Archie at Advanced HMI be someone that could provide some input on this?
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Old November 18th, 2020, 06:05 AM   #7
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If you want a taste of Vb HMI development without a lot of investment time, check out Advanced HMI.
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Old November 18th, 2020, 06:52 AM   #8
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All of that -- Super easy with "Ignition Scada".
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Old November 18th, 2020, 08:06 AM   #9
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Quote:
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The answer to your question is me
I have completed quit a few VB and Net Studio HMI's
i actually prefer it. It's far more flexible
the attached is a main screen done completely in Net Studio
is this vb forms??
Did you design your own driver for communication?
I would like to play with this and have so experience in vb studio
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Old November 18th, 2020, 10:39 AM   #10
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OT but related

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I have read that VB (Visual Basic) is approaching end of life. Do the various VB-using technologies (FT, AdvancedHMI, etc.) have a migration plan e.g. Visual C/C++ or Visual C#?

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Old November 18th, 2020, 10:54 AM   #11
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VB was rolled into Net Studio some time back
Net Studio is what Rockwell used to create Logix5000 and Panel View
Many other applications are created using it.
the one shown on the earlier post is actually Net Studio
i would venture to say the base program for most of the HMI programs is Net Studio
so don't think it's going where
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Old November 18th, 2020, 12:36 PM   #12
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According to Paul Thurrott's article (link) ...
Microsoft is not killing vb.net, but will not develop any new features or evolve the language.
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Old November 18th, 2020, 01:08 PM   #13
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GaryS, that picture is awesome.
Are those the Sutter Buttes?
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Old November 18th, 2020, 02:40 PM   #14
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GaryS. That HMI is awesome. Is there any animation?
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Old November 18th, 2020, 02:46 PM   #15
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According to Paul Thurrott's article (link) ...
Microsoft is not killing vb.net, but will not develop any new features or evolve the language.



Yes, I overstated the case. I found one article that quoted VB (VB6?) as "the cockroach that can't be killed."
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