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jgreenewv · Feb 21, 2017

janner_10 said:
That sounds more like a training issue than a stupid issue to me.

I would agree, except this particular technician was at the factory run-off, at the acceptance run-off, and spent three weeks with the machine builder's folks training how to clear faults and operate the machine. I don't think the training stuck.

Doug-P · Feb 21, 2017

PLC Pie Guy said:
Really, at least 3 different situations today has had management asking me to put STUPID alarms on equipment. They are asking me to make some alarms redundant and display them in other areas of the plant so the more "responsible" operators can see them ,and tell a different operator, who has nothing to do with their machine that they have an issue. Simply because the train horn, the flashing orange light and the giant red text across the screen saying "you have an alarm condition" is not enough.

There's half the problem right there. If management were able to hold people accountable for doing at least the minimum of their job a lot of this stuff would go away almost overnight. In truth, I believe it's a societal issue.

Toine · Feb 21, 2017

Things like this may also have to do with the age old "you pay peanuts, you get monkeys". Not saying I am making heaps of money, but I might not be all that motivated either if my salary was that of an average factory production worker.

Saturn_Europa1 · Feb 21, 2017

Toine said:
Things like this may also have to do with the age old "you pay peanuts, you get monkeys". Not saying I am making heaps of money, but I might not be all that motivated either if my salary was that of an average factory production worker.

Our operators make upwards of 50k a year. But they come in with the expectation of being in the control room their whole shift. Most of the problems I see are from lack of engagement and boredom and not my job attitude.

Highland Controls · Feb 21, 2017

I had to look at that picture several times. I kept thinking that was a rope tied around the pipe!

willxfmr · Feb 22, 2017

That picture could have easily been taken where I work. IMHO, it boils down to a lack of accountability. We are regularly asked to add "don't let me be stupid" alarms and limits. But nobody is ever asked why they did something stupid in the first place.

Bubba.

AustralIan · Feb 22, 2017

I find if you make people accountable for their mistakes, they try to hide their mistakes. This is often worse than the mistakes themselves.

geniusintraining · Feb 22, 2017

I see the real issue here..... the orange cable was for holding the pipe but they used the yellow, bad choice

Dravik · Feb 22, 2017

geniusintraining said:
I see the real issue here..... the orange cable was for holding the pipe but they used the yellow, bad choice

Well, I had an electrician use my orange cable as a pull cord once. He liked how durable it was, Though it didn't transmit light for s%$^ after...

Ronnie Sullivan · Feb 22, 2017

I was told that my new assistant was the best of the best.
He would be doing electrical breakdowns to take some load off me.
Day 1 he called me.
'I have a machine here and there is a black square thing with four legs
The legs are marked + - and the 2 others with a squiggle.
I think it is gone - what is it?
'A rectifier'
What's that?
Is there any DC on the + - legs?
My meter doesn't do DC
All meters do DC
is it the setting with a line and dots under it
Yes
I always wondered what that was....................................

Steve Bailey · Feb 22, 2017

I think it is gone - what is it?

Probably selected as the cause of the problem because he couldn't identify what it was. The uninformed tend to blame the problem on that which they understand the least.

g.mccormick · Feb 22, 2017

I have a lot of guys that like to wire motors seemingly by just equally dividing all of the wires up into bundles. 1 bundle, 2 bundles, it really depends on the size of the wire nut they have in their hands at the time.

mk42 · Feb 22, 2017

Ronnie Sullivan said:
is it the setting with a line and dots under it
Yes
I always wondered what that was....................................

I had a similar conversation once with someone about the "bacon button" on his car. He apparently had no idea his car had a rear defroster, and had never bothered to find out. Made driving in Philly really hard in winter....

Mark Snodgrass · Feb 22, 2017

mk42 said:
I had a similar conversation once with someone about the "bacon button" on his car. He apparently had no idea his car had a rear defroster, and had never bothered to find out. Made driving in Philly really hard in winter....

MMMM Bacon!!!! I wish cars really did have a bacon button.

Toine · Feb 22, 2017

If our clients want to pay for it, I will gladly add a bacon button to the HMI

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