1747-sn, 1747-asb

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hy there!
i am trying to connect a remote I/O rack using a slc 5/04 and two cards 1747-SN and 1747-ASB.
i did what they say in the manual but in still have the COMM red blinking on the SN card and noc on the ASB card.

can anyone help?
 
There are lots of people eager to help you solve your problem. But first you have to help us.


  • Tell us how each and every switch on the ASB and SN modules are set
  • Tell us what modules are located in the local and the remote chassis
  • Tell us how the G File is configured for the 1747-SN
  • If possible, post your program. We don't care about the logic, we want to see how you have configured your I/O.
Here is a similar post by someone about two weeks ago. Please read thru this and notice all the info he posted. Perhaps your problem can be found in this thread.

http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/showthread.php?t=47447

If you don't see your answer here, then please post the details and someone here will be glad to help you sort through the problem.

OG
 
remote I/O configuration

hello guys!

here's what i have so far:

local rack configuration:10 SLOTS RACK

0 1747-l541 5/04 cpu-16k mem.os401
1 1746-IA16
2 1746-OA16
3 1746-IA16
4 1746-OW16
5 1746-IA16
6 1746-OA16
7 1746-IA16
8 1746-OW16
9 1747-SN

REMOTE RACK:13 SLOTS

0 1747-ASB
1 1746-IA16
2 1746-OW16
3 1746-IA16
4 1746-OW16
5 1746-IA16
6 1746-OW16
7 1746-IA16
8 1746-OW16

G FILE CONFIGURATIO:

32 INPUTS
32 OUTPUTS
M0 3300
M1 3300
LOGICAL GROUPS 3

G FILE CONFIG

LOGICAL RACK 0 FULL RACK

THE LADDER PROGRAMM IS THE ONE FROM THE REMOTE I/O SCANER BOOK STARTING FROM PAGE D16;
Bidirectional Continuous Block Transfer Example



DIP SWITCHES FOR THE ADAPTOR CARD:

SW1
1 ON
2 ON
3 ON
4 OFF
5 ON
6 ON
7 OFF
8 OFF

SW2
1 ON
2 ON
3 ON
4 ON
5 ON
6 ON
7 ON
8 OFF

SW3
1 OFF
2 ON
3 OFF
4 ON
5 OFF
6 OFF
7 ON
8 ON
8 ON

I CONNECTED THE 150OHMS RESISTORS AT EACH END OF THE COMMUNICATION WIRE WITCH BY THE WAY IT IS NOT THE ONE THEY SAY IN THE BOOK BUT IS A BELDEN

I DID THIS BUT I STILL HAVE THE RED COMM BLINCKING ON THE SCANER AND ON THE ADAPTOR I HAVE THE MESSAGE ' NOC"

I HOPE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS INFO.

MARIUS
 
Let's divide up the issues here

Problem #1: The DIP Switches

SW1
===

switches 1-6 equals Rack #4 which is invalid. Your G File Config specifies Rack #0. Change SW1-4 to On to configure the remote chassis as Rack #0

switches 7 & 8 You have this configured so that your starting I/O Group # is 6. You will want set to be group #0. Change these switch position to ON (for both).

SW2
===

switches 1 & 2 configure Baud Rate. Yours is currently set for 57.6Kb. This is a good starting point. Do not change unless it is determined you need faster update speed.

switch 3 must be off. This is a setting for complimentary mode which you are not using. Change this switch.

switch 4 must be ON. Do not change.

switches 5-8 set the rack size. You have your system configured to transfer 4 I/O groups worth of data. This setting will in part be determined by how you set the Addressing Mode via SW3 switches 5 & 6. You have those set for 2-slot addressing. Based on the way you have these modules arranged in the Remote chassis, 2-slot addressing is acceptable. However be aware that any empty slots after slot #8 would be unusable. You might consider changing this setting from 4 I/O groups to 6. I will proceed though assuming 4 I/O groups. So the current setting for these switches is acceptable.

SW3
===

switch 1 is set to Not Hold Last State. This is acceptable. Do not change.

switch 2 enables automatic restart of the adapter by the processor. You have this option enabled. Do not change.

switch 3 is an option to operate with unrestricted response times. This option should be set to the ON "Restricted" position unless your network experiences time out issues. Change this back to the default ON position.

switch 4 identifies if this chassis is the last chassis on the physical network. You have it in the default "Not Last Chassis" setting. This is acceptable. Do not change.

switch 5 & 6 configure the Addressing Mode. You are configured for 2-slot addressing. Based on the layout of your I/O modules this is acceptable. Do not change.

switch 7 determines whether Discrete or Block Transfer mode is used. The modules you are using ignore this setting. This is primarly for analog and other "smart" modules communicate. Do not change.

switch 8 determines if the adapter is to check the modules identify or save the modules identity. You have it set to SAVE. This is acceptable. Do not change.

Problem #2: The G File Configuration

This setting needs to be changed from Logical Rack 0 as a FULL RACK to 1/2 RACK. This correspondes to the correctitons in DIP switches listed above. Basically you had told the adapter module that it was at Rack #4 (invalid) starting with Group #6 and that it had four groups. Which would have meant your four I/O Groups would have been Rack 4 Group 6, Rack 4 Group 7, Rack 5 Group 0 and Rack 5 Group 1. However the G File was telling the scanner module (1747-SN) to go look for eight I/O Groups starting at Rack 0 Group 0 through Rack 0 Group 7. The scanner couldn't "find" the adapter.

Problem #3: The Ladder Logic Block Transfers

Erase it all. Block Transfers are only used if Block Transfer Mode was selected (SW3-7) which you are not. Block Transfers are only used for the analog and some other "smart" modules. The Discrete modules you are using cannot use Block Transfers. Their data will automatically be transferred (discretely). No logic is required for this to happen.

So, let us know what happens!

OG
 
Evrika!

Hy guys!
Well you did it again!
I followed your good advice and everything is up end running.
My question now is when i will receive teh last four cards that i am missing on my 13 slots rack will it be enough to change the g file for 3/4 rack and thesw2 5-8 to 6?

Anyway thancks a million!

Marius:d
 
Excellent! Glad to hear it is up and running. When you add the additional modules, if they are all digital style then yes, all you have to do is increase the G-File setting to 3/4-rack and change the dip switches to 6 I/O Groups. If the modules are analog then we would have to make some other changes.

OG
 
hy there!
i am trying to connect a remote I/O rack using a slc 5/04 and two cards 1747-SN and 1747-ASB.
i did what they say in the manual but in still have the COMM red blinking on the SN card and noc on the ASB card.

can anyone help?



hello guys!

here's what i have so far:

local rack configuration:13 SLOTS RACK

0 1747-l542 5/04 cpu-28k mem.os402
1 Blank
2 1746-N041
3 1746-N041
4 BLANK
5 1746-0X8
6 1746-IA16
7 1746-IA16
8 1746-IA16
9 1746-IA16
10 1747-SN
11 1746-IB16
12 1746-OB16

EXTENDED RACK OF 7 SLOT

13 1746-NI4
14 1746-NR4
15 1746-NR4
16 BLANK
17 1746-IA16
18 1746-OW16
19 BLANK

AND 7 SLOT REMOTE RACK

0 1747-ASB
1 1746-IA16
2 1746-OW16
3 1746-IA16
4 1746-IA16
5 1746-IA16
6 BLANK

What I need is the G file configuration for this setup.kindly any one can help me.
 

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