Best Siemens Hans Berger's book for me?

Elcan · Apr 6, 2017

Hi All,
I'm in the process of learning Siemens:
1) Using TIA Portal V14.
2) Working on a S7-1200. There are chances that I also use the S7-1500 series.
3) Programming in LAD.

What would be the best Berger's book (or from any other author) for my particular case?

I don't see me using the S7-300 or the S7-400, nor programing outside the TIA Portal. However, if there's a very good book based on any of those processors and/or using STEP 7 (not TIA portal), and you think it will be helpful for me anyway, I will consider it.

Thank you!

gclshortt · Apr 6, 2017

https://support.industry.siemens.com/tf/WW/en/posts/please-help-me-out-practice-ladder-logic/64101?page=0&pageSize=10

The above thread may help you out.
Regards,

gyaanc · Apr 7, 2017

Thanks Garry
Really a useful giude.

Elcan · Apr 7, 2017

gclshortt said:
https://support.industry.siemens.com/tf/WW/en/posts/please-help-me-out-practice-ladder-logic/64101?page=0&pageSize=10

The above thread may help you out.
Regards,

Nice list! The only problem is that it was created back in 2009. It would be great if an updated list is posted!

Going back to my original question, I haven't received any feedback about the books. Let me start with my first guess:
Automating with SIMATIC S7-1200: Configuring, Programming and Testing with STEP 7 Basic V11; Visualization with WinCC Basic V1

https://www.amazon.com/Automating-S...1491565898&sr=1-1&refinements=p_82:B001JOPGC8

geniusintraining · Apr 7, 2017

Not a book but Siemens has made some videos that are good

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdTU9QpgG0a0sIcNxKGQF5mQVpFM_tfze

mk42 · Apr 7, 2017

There is a Berger book for the 1200 & Portal. It was written for V11 not V14, but the principles haven't changed much. 90% of what you learn for the 1200 will apply to the 1500 as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Hans-Berger-Automating-SIMATIC-S7-1200/dp/B00RWSYYHI

Elcan · Apr 7, 2017

mk42 said:
There is a Berger book for the 1200 & Portal. It was written for V11 not V14, but the principles haven't changed much. 90% of what you learn for the 1200 will apply to the 1500 as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Hans-Berger-Automating-SIMATIC-S7-1200/dp/B00RWSYYHI

Thank you!
It's seems to be the same book I suggested, but for some reason the prices are different.

mk42 · Apr 7, 2017

Elcan said:
Thank you!
It's seems to be the same book I suggested, but for some reason the prices are different.

Oh, HAH, I hadn't seen your post. Yeah, that's the same one, not sure why my link costs so much more, must be different "stores" on amazon with the same product. If you want a book, it's probably the best place to start.

Elcan · Apr 7, 2017

mk42 said:
Oh, HAH, I hadn't seen your post. Yeah, that's the same one, not sure why my link costs so much more, must be different "stores" on amazon with the same product. If you want a book, it's probably the best place to start.

People have praised the Berger's books in other older threads. I was expecting more comments here...

RClem · Apr 7, 2017

I've found the Step 7 books by C.T. Jones easier to understand, once you have a better idea then the Hans Berger books start to make sense.

Elcan · Apr 7, 2017

RClem said:
I've found the Step 7 books by C.T. Jones easier to understand, once you have a better idea then the Hans Berger books start to make sense.

Thank you for your recommendation.
I'm very familiar with RSLogix 5000, and I basically need to migrate my knowledge to Siemens and TIA Portal. I am not starting from scratch with PLC programming, if that was you assumed by recommending to start with an easier book. If your idea is that the Jones' book is a good start for Step 7 regardless your background, then I will take a look at it.

RClem · Apr 7, 2017

Elcan said:
If your idea is that the Jones' book is a good start for Step 7 regardless your background, then I will take a look at it.

That was my idea, I found the Jones books easier to comprehend, once I understood Siemens' ways the Berger book became more usable to me.

By far the most I learned was during the 4.5 day Siemens TIA Portal programming 1 course I took at my local distributor, I plan on attending programming 2 later this year. Fortunately my local distributor has a good application engineer who is a certified Siemens instructor.

Elcan · Apr 7, 2017

RClem said:
That was my idea, I found the Jones books easier to comprehend, once I understood Siemens' ways the Berger book became more usable to me.

Expensive, though ($1,872!!!)
https://www.amazon.com/STEP-Steps-I...+S7-300/S7-400+Programmable+Logic+Controllers

By far the most I learned was during the 4.5 day Siemens TIA Portal programming 1 course I took at my local distributor, I plan on attending programming 2 later this year. Fortunately my local distributor has a good application engineer who is a certified Siemens instructor.

I think we were asked almost $3,000 for a multi-day training, and I'm trying to get around it.

RClem · Apr 7, 2017

Expensive, though ($1,872!!!)
https://www.amazon.com/STEP-Steps-Im...ic+Controllers

That's definitely more than I paid for mine. This is the other one I have: https://www.amazon.com/STEP-Program...+7+programming+made+easy+in+lad,+fbd,+and+stl

I think we were asked almost $3,000 for a multi-day training, and I'm trying to get around it.

I seem to remember it was around $2700 in 2015 when I went.

geniusintraining · Apr 7, 2017

Elcan said:
Expensive, though ($1,872!!!)
https://www.amazon.com/STEP-Steps-I...+S7-300/S7-400+Programmable+Logic+Controllers

For 1,872 someone better come to my shop and read it to me... and bring a beer

The Step7 classes were about 3k in Georgia also but they were worth it... speaking of books, if you know anyone that went to the Siemens classes they give you a small truck load of books (well they did) when you take the class so you have reading material for a year

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