ML110 MSG SetUp

[Damaged]

Ok I have been reading for three days. I need some help determining if I can do this or not. I apologize before hand for any information that I will leave out. This is what I have:

ML1100 bul.1763 series b.
Chnl 0 is reading barcode scanner (no problems).
chnl 1 is on a LAN. Communing with a PV + (No problems)

The other device that is on the LAN is a Sensopart FA 45 Eyesight camera (PT#522-91082 (or 92)). The camera is looking down at products and giving a Pass/Fail signal. The camera has 5 configurations that have to be trigger in order for the camera to identify the Parts.

The vendor that specified the parts in this job was under the impression that the cameras config could be changed by discreet triggering using pulse from the PLC. (I had to order a 1762-OB8 to do the switching in the time the camera needed). The reality is that the camera can use the discreet siganl to trigger the capture but needs a command string to change the configuration of the cameras. The actually string is "#007<FILENAME>.ckp#".

How can I set the MSG instruction to write this command to the camera? I have setup MSG instructions for PLC to PLC communication but never for a "Non-AB" device.

The camera manual is very vague on the actual communication setup other that that it is an "UDP protocol" and that the receiving port is "5952".

Camera Site.... Manual is on the right

How can I direct the MSG to that specific port. I could only get as far as the IP address. Then when I choose the generic CIP, it tells me that the "string" format is invalid.

I sure could use some advice on this.

[robertkjonesjr]

I don't think you can get there from here. My understanding is that there is no general ethernet comms available on the built-in port. You need raw socket access to a UDP socket, and it just can't do it. I think your going to have to add hardware. If it was TCP I know what I would do, but with UDP I would have to do some research.

The Digi One IAP might do this...
also check RTA - this application wasn't explicitly listed as they are pretty specific about use of TCP, but might be worth a phone call.

[Mike Lamond]

I looked at the manuals briefly. The camera programming language does seem to lack a command to switch programs, so that it could respond to a discrete input as the vendor thought. However, the Quickstart manual lists serial text string commands equivalent to the LAN commands. If you have access to the camera's serial port, I suggest putting in a second ML1100 and using the ASCII commands to command the camera through that PLC's RS232 port.

Mike

[Damaged]

Thanks Robert and Mike!

I realize that I will probably have to do this with an external device, but was just checking myself. I was/am in doubt, so I thought I would ask. Now my question is the what is the most efficient ($$ : )) to do this.

If any one else would like to chime in ... all responses welcome.

[JeffKiper]

What is the 1100 for just to pass info or to do controll off the data?
I would look at a Red lion G3 you can't get better support than that and you could do away with the PV+. Then next would be Real Time Automation the 460 line is great they are running a sell now just to get them out to the market.

[Damaged]

UPDATE!

The vendor that speced out the parts for the project met with the sensopart distributor and with help from the German manufacturer, they have it where we will be able to switch the setup config by discreet pulses.

From what I understand, in the camera config software, these guys set up a counter that monitored a configurable input and did a comparison. C=x then "this".

NOW, if I can just get the 1762-OB8 modules in that I ordered 2 weeks ago I could finish this project. What is going on with AB and the "Part Shortage", anyone know?

Thanks for all your replies!!

[Damaged]

Update!

Changed out all the cameras, replaced with Banner Cams.

[JeffKiper]

Banner makes some nice stuff. Did you get it all up and running OK?

[Damaged]

Yes up and running, but not totally integrated into production due to factors that I have no control over.

[JeffKiper]

just a little FYI.I install all of my cameras to be powered off an output in a PLC. That way I can cycle power to them when the comms lock up without walking out to the machine. I am lazy. This usually only happens when you are doing startups on the cameras and flood them with info. They may have cleaned that up in the latest firmware.