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JeffKiper · August 28th, 2010, 10:57 AM

What are the differences in the Omega G3 and the regular Red Lion G3? I see the color difference in the faceplate. Are there any firmware/ hardware changes. Just reading Control Engineering and ran across their ad.

OkiePC · August 28th, 2010, 11:12 AM

They're probably identical:
http://www.omega.com/toc_asp/subsect...ook=auto&all=1

I know that Red Lion advertises that they will customize their products for OEMs.

I have wondered about the similarities between Maple Systems HMI5043N and the Red Lion G304K. They look the same except Maple's has a USB port.

JeffKiper · August 28th, 2010, 11:37 AM

Paul do you think if I buy a bunch of them they will put "Full Circle Automation" on them for me? Is 2 or 3 considered a bunch? I hope so.

OkiePC · August 28th, 2010, 12:01 PM

Not sure...There might be a significant tooling charge for the 1st setup...ask Mike, or Jeremy, I am sure they could answer that question pretty quick...

Brijm · August 28th, 2010, 09:07 PM

Hmmm... The interesting thing is that the G306 is $899 from Omega, and $999 from Red Lion???

OkiePC · August 29th, 2010, 06:28 AM

I think you're comparing a G306C with a G306A. I think the C is no longer being made and the A has an improved display:
http://www.omega.com/ppt/pptsc.asp?r...=G3_HMI306&Nav=

https://store.redlion.net/store/come...idCategory=515

Marc_U · August 30th, 2010, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffKiper

Paul do you think if I buy a bunch of them they will put "Full Circle Automation" on them for me? Is 2 or 3 considered a bunch? I hope so.

I'm not Redlion, so I cannot give prices, but our company has started using Redlion G3 with our hydro-turbines, so had a programming training session with Redlion's main European Manager, and this question came up.

The answer is yes, they would do customised face-plates, however the cost of doing it would depend on numbers involved.

If it is 2 or 3 a year, then you would be charged for the cost of 1st tooling to do this, though once done, there is no additional cost. If we are talking quite a number per year, then even cost of the initial 1st tooling is wavied.

Jesse Benefiel · August 30th, 2010, 08:24 AM

Jeff,

We can discuss offline. I'm afraid that 2 or 3 isn't a bunch

, but there are options.

PM sent.

Jesse

MikeGranby · August 30th, 2010, 10:15 AM

"I have wondered about the similarities between Maple Systems HMI5043N and the Red Lion G304K. They look the same except Maple's has a USB port."

We buy our Kadet hardware from the same Taiwanese supplier that Maple (and others) use for their own panels. The difference is we add our own software, and of course, we are a real US-based manufacturer when it comes to the main-line G3 products and just about everything else we sell. Sadly, most so-called "manufacturers" just buy-in other people's product and resell it these days, being little more than distributors. And even we end up having to do that at the low end so we can concentrate resources on other areas.

August 28th, 2010, 10:57 AM	#1
JeffKiper Lifetime Supporting Member + Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,832	Omega Red Lion G3 What are the differences in the Omega G3 and the regular Red Lion G3? I see the color difference in the faceplate. Are there any firmware/ hardware changes. Just reading Control Engineering and ran across their ad. __________________ There should be a minimum IQ before people can breed

August 28th, 2010, 11:12 AM	#2
OkiePC Lifetime Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ENE of Nowhere Oklahoma Posts: 7,502	They're probably identical: http://www.omega.com/toc_asp/subsect...ook=auto&all=1 I know that Red Lion advertises that they will customize their products for OEMs. I have wondered about the similarities between Maple Systems HMI5043N and the Red Lion G304K. They look the same except Maple's has a USB port. __________________ It's not all the variables I am most concerned with, it's the undiscovered constants. "You can lead a horse to water but if he's got his head up his as$ he may die of thirst anyway."

August 28th, 2010, 11:37 AM	#3
JeffKiper Lifetime Supporting Member + Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,832	Paul do you think if I buy a bunch of them they will put "Full Circle Automation" on them for me? Is 2 or 3 considered a bunch? I hope so. __________________ There should be a minimum IQ before people can breed Last edited by JeffKiper; August 28th, 2010 at 11:40 AM.

August 28th, 2010, 12:01 PM	#4
OkiePC Lifetime Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ENE of Nowhere Oklahoma Posts: 7,502	Not sure...There might be a significant tooling charge for the 1st setup...ask Mike, or Jeremy, I am sure they could answer that question pretty quick... __________________ It's not all the variables I am most concerned with, it's the undiscovered constants. "You can lead a horse to water but if he's got his head up his as$ he may die of thirst anyway."

August 28th, 2010, 09:07 PM	#5
Brijm Lifetime Supporting Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: St. Marys, PA Posts: 578	Hmmm... The interesting thing is that the G306 is $899 from Omega, and $999 from Red Lion??? __________________ Brian



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August 29th, 2010, 06:28 AM	#6
OkiePC Lifetime Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ENE of Nowhere Oklahoma Posts: 7,502	I think you're comparing a G306C with a G306A. I think the C is no longer being made and the A has an improved display: http://www.omega.com/ppt/pptsc.asp?r...=G3_HMI306&Nav= https://store.redlion.net/store/come...idCategory=515 __________________ It's not all the variables I am most concerned with, it's the undiscovered constants. "You can lead a horse to water but if he's got his head up his as$ he may die of thirst anyway."

August 30th, 2010, 08:24 AM	#8
Jesse Benefiel Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: York, PA Posts: 50	Jeff, We can discuss offline. I'm afraid that 2 or 3 isn't a bunch , but there are options. PM sent. Jesse __________________ Jesse Benefiel Product Manager Red Lion Controls Check out our new software at www.crimson3.com

August 30th, 2010, 10:15 AM	#9
MikeGranby Lifetime Supporting Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: York, PA Posts: 381	"I have wondered about the similarities between Maple Systems HMI5043N and the Red Lion G304K. They look the same except Maple's has a USB port." We buy our Kadet hardware from the same Taiwanese supplier that Maple (and others) use for their own panels. The difference is we add our own software, and of course, we are a real US-based manufacturer when it comes to the main-line G3 products and just about everything else we sell. Sadly, most so-called "manufacturers" just buy-in other people's product and resell it these days, being little more than distributors. And even we end up having to do that at the low end so we can concentrate resources on other areas. __________________ Mike Granby President Red Lion Controls Check out our new software at www.crimson3.com

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