WinCC Basics

Secret · Sep 1, 2008

I've only ever used Protool for Siemens screens before but I've been given a WinCC 2007 project to look at.
I can't for the life of me get the properties of any of the buttons/fields etc. Am I being thick?

MorphuisOGrady · Sep 2, 2008

Right Click

Place your object on the screen i.e. button, then right click on it and go to properties.

Secret said:
I've only ever used Protool for Siemens screens before but I've been given a WinCC 2007 project to look at.
I can't for the life of me get the properties of any of the buttons/fields etc. Am I being thick?

Secret · Sep 3, 2008

Hi, the objects are already there, I have since been told that I should be able to double click on them and the properties box should come up on the bottom which it doesn't. I've also been told there should be a liberary field on the right for selecting objects to drag into the screens which it hasn't got either. I've tried selecting things in the view menu to no avail......

MorphuisOGrady · Sep 3, 2008

So when you right click on your object there is no option for properties?

JesperMP · Sep 3, 2008

1st. Dont start a thread with "WinCC", when you are really meaning "WinCC Flexible". Such things really destroy my day.

2nd. Try to open a command prompt, go to the WinCC Flexible program folder, and enter hmies -reset <enter>
This should restore your menus. I have experienced a case where this was not enough. After I reinstalled the latest hotfix it started to behave again.

MorphuisOGrady · Sep 3, 2008

WinCC Flex? Big difference

JOLTRON · Sep 3, 2008

I know I have said the "WinCC" instead of "WinCC Flex" before. When I started I wasn't even aware of a "WinCC" so didn't know that the added details needed to be there. Damn Siemens for needing to name stuff very similar.

I had the same issue with my WinCC Flexible 2005 and 2007 (both standard and advance). I had to go into control panel -> Add Remove programs -> Click on Remove -> then the option comes up to Repair the file.

I've had to do this up to 3 times after an install to get Flex working and also similar issues with Step7

Bratt · Sep 4, 2008

This will also reset the layout if it somehow gets messed up.

Bratt · Sep 4, 2008

MorphuisOGrady said:
WinCC Flex? Big difference

Yes! Big difference!

Secret · Sep 6, 2008

Hi, Update is I uninstalled + reinstalled (tried the reset layout bit in the toolbox - didn't work) seems fine now. Anybody got alarm logging working for alarm history on a MP377 12" touchscreen? It seems to want an external storage area to store the log file? Why can't it use it's own flash memory?

userxyz · Sep 7, 2008

hmm

I never worked with an MP377, but I think it will be allmost the same as an MP277.

Or you place an MMC card to store on. Or a network location.

Or you select events instead of logging, but I don't know what happens after shutting down the runtime...

MP's do have a non-volatile alarm buffer without battery, so I guess the alarm buffer won't be cleared.

Secret said:
Hi, Update is I uninstalled + reinstalled (tried the reset layout bit in the toolbox - didn't work) seems fine now. Anybody got alarm logging working for alarm history on a MP377 12" touchscreen? It seems to want an external storage area to store the log file? Why can't it use it's own flash memory?

Secret · Sep 7, 2008

Combo said:
I never worked with an MP377, but I think it will be allmost the same as an MP277.

Or you place an MMC card to store on. Or a network location.

Or you select events instead of logging, but I don't know what happens after shutting down the runtime...

MP's do have a non-volatile alarm buffer without battery, so I guess the alarm buffer won't be cleared.

Thanks, I was trying with a USB drive (which was an option) but didn't seem to work. I tried a CF card today which works. I tried the events option instead of logging yesterday but as you suggest it only stores them when running and clears it on reboot.

surferb · Sep 7, 2008

Sounds pretty squirley. Any idea what's really going on with the menus? What does that have to do with the layout?

userxyz · Sep 8, 2008

okay

Okay

Secret said:
Thanks, I was trying with a USB drive (which was an option) but didn't seem to work. I tried a CF card today which works. I tried the events option instead of logging yesterday but as you suggest it only stores them when running and clears it on reboot.

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