PLC GE-Fanuc can Online Edit Program while CPU Run Time ? - PLCS.net

alpine · June 23rd, 2022, 05:52 AM

Dear Everyone

I work with PLC GE-Fanuc. But I don't know that

"PLC GE-Fanuc (Series 90-30 and VersaMax) can Online Edit Programming
while CPU Runtime ?"

I used to work with PLC Allen-Bradley and I knonw that Allen-Bradley
can Online Edit Programming while CPU Run Time.

But for PLC GE-Fanuc, I don't know. Please inform me about Online Edit Programming of PLC GE-Fanuc

Thank You

dYoast · June 23rd, 2022, 08:01 AM

The GE-Fanuc PLC line was sold to Emerson a few years ago.

The 90-30 and VersaMax do not have online editing, but you can download changes to the 90-30 while it is running. The VersaMax depends on the model and version of firmware as to whether it can download while running.

The newer Rx3i line has online editing.

If you want to save to flash memory, you will have to stop the PLC for all types.

alpine · June 23rd, 2022, 01:52 PM

Thank You dYoast

Before I post this question, I unintentionally online edit program by change instruction in Ladder (from ONDTH to TMR).
Then all ladders colour change to pink colour !

In my understand as your described ;

1. I can download edited program into CPU again ?
2. I must stop CPU before download ?

Do I understand correct ?

Steve Bailey · June 23rd, 2022, 06:43 PM

Question #1: Yes
Question #2: No. You only need to stop the CPU from running the program is when you make changes to hardware configuration. Program changes can be made without stopping.

alpine · June 24th, 2022, 12:42 AM

Thank You Steve

NetNathan · June 24th, 2022, 12:35 PM

Yes, you can edit online if not making hardware configuration.

You will also need to verify how you are using the flash memory if your CPU supports it. It maybe configured to "always load from flash".
Why? If you edit online, it is not saved to the flash memory. You will have to stop the CPU then download and verify you are also downloading to FLASH Memory also.

alpine · June 24th, 2022, 12:57 PM

Thank You Netnathan
As your described
If I would like to download to FLASH memory, I must stop CPU before downloading.
If I would not like to download to FLASH memory, No need to stop CPU !
Do I understand correct ?

And I have read about hardware of PLC GE-Fanuc ;
RAM memory need to use battery to store programming data when power turn off.
But FLASH memory no need to use battery.
Do I understand correct ?

NetNathan · June 24th, 2022, 01:03 PM

Yes.. on all questions.

NetNathan · June 24th, 2022, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetNathan

Yes.. on all questions.

Are you using Machine Edition PLC software?

alpine · June 24th, 2022, 01:45 PM

Thank you Netnathan
I use Machine Edition Software.

June 23rd, 2022, 01:52 PM	#3
alpine Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bangkok Posts: 51	Thank You dYoast Before I post this question, I unintentionally online edit program by change instruction in Ladder (from ONDTH to TMR). Then all ladders colour change to pink colour ! In my understand as your described ; 1. I can download edited program into CPU again ? 2. I must stop CPU before download ? Do I understand correct ? Last edited by alpine; June 23rd, 2022 at 02:01 PM.

June 24th, 2022, 12:35 PM	#6
NetNathan Lifetime Supporting Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 2,038	Yes, you can edit online if not making hardware configuration. You will also need to verify how you are using the flash memory if your CPU supports it. It maybe configured to "always load from flash". Why? If you edit online, it is not saved to the flash memory. You will have to stop the CPU then download and verify you are also downloading to FLASH Memory also. __________________ **Control Freak** Net is where I be and Nathan is me. I have a condition called "The Knack". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vHhgh6oM0&t=2s

June 24th, 2022, 01:03 PM	#8
NetNathan Lifetime Supporting Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 2,038	Yes.. on all questions. __________________ **Control Freak** Net is where I be and Nathan is me. I have a condition called "The Knack". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vHhgh6oM0&t=2s

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June 23rd, 2022, 05:52 AM	#1
alpine Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bangkok Posts: 51	PLC GE-Fanuc can Online Edit Program while CPU Run Time ? Dear Everyone I work with PLC GE-Fanuc. But I don't know that "PLC GE-Fanuc (Series 90-30 and VersaMax) can Online Edit Programming while CPU Runtime ?" I used to work with PLC Allen-Bradley and I knonw that Allen-Bradley can Online Edit Programming while CPU Run Time. But for PLC GE-Fanuc, I don't know. Please inform me about Online Edit Programming of PLC GE-Fanuc Thank You

June 23rd, 2022, 08:01 AM	#2
dYoast Lifetime Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 237	The GE-Fanuc PLC line was sold to Emerson a few years ago. The 90-30 and VersaMax do not have online editing, but you can download changes to the 90-30 while it is running. The VersaMax depends on the model and version of firmware as to whether it can download while running. The newer Rx3i line has online editing. If you want to save to flash memory, you will have to stop the PLC for all types.

June 23rd, 2022, 06:43 PM	#4
Steve Bailey Lifetime Supporting Member + Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The boondocks of Western Massachusetts USA Posts: 7,876	Question #1: Yes Question #2: No. You only need to stop the CPU from running the program is when you make changes to hardware configuration. Program changes can be made without stopping.

June 24th, 2022, 12:42 AM	#5
alpine Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bangkok Posts: 51	Thank You Steve

June 24th, 2022, 12:57 PM	#7
alpine Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bangkok Posts: 51	Thank You Netnathan As your described If I would like to download to FLASH memory, I must stop CPU before downloading. If I would not like to download to FLASH memory, No need to stop CPU ! Do I understand correct ? And I have read about hardware of PLC GE-Fanuc ; RAM memory need to use battery to store programming data when power turn off. But FLASH memory no need to use battery. Do I understand correct ?

June 24th, 2022, 01:45 PM	#10
alpine Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bangkok Posts: 51	Thank you Netnathan I use Machine Edition Software.

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