Rob...
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List price is $9,980.00
List price here is: £3,670.00
Although for the basic starter edition its < £800
List price is $9,980.00
Just I defend people here charging $ for their work. Yes.
I'm quite it doesn't cost $10k, it's some # the OP throw out to make a point but as most pointed out, it's better just to hire out this job and maybe long term replace the PLC. PLC 5 parts cost an arm and leg now even on eBay.
Although for the basic starter edition its < £800
Rob said:List price here is: £3,670.00
Although for the basic starter edition its < £800
Rob is that for PN 9324-RL5300ENE is that 5 or 500?
That's for RSLogix 500. Professional edition.
9324-RL5300ENE is £5660.00 in electronic format only.
Must be AB's passive-aggressive way of moving people out of the PLC 5 platform. Most distributor can get you a temp license.
And yet, people go to war to defend Rockwell...
They can do that by charging more for hardware such as a Ethernet PLC5 list price on a L40e is north of 30k so that should make people think twice but I think the software for 10k is not making people move to another platform
Great idea of just contact the local and ask for help, Both AB and Siemens both have helped me in the past and did not charge or they did very little
I'm not saying Rockwell is inexpensive, but have you looked at the licensing model for Solidworks recently? They're doing their best to make Rockwell look cheap.
-Benaiah
Tim Michols said:Hi , i'm looking for copy of RSlogix5 or a laptop with that software on it. I need it to upload code ,so i can rewrite it. any help would be appreciated.
It's possible that it's your preference to "do" this conversion or "rewrite" yourself, but, seeing as you don't have the necessary software, and as has been advised, it would probably make more sense, financially and time-wise, to employ a third party to assist you.
Whether that third party is a contract programmer or Rockwell themselves, would be up to you and I'm sure dependant on cost.
Rockwell do provide a migration and/or bridging service via their local Solutions & Services teams. They can assess and cost up the migration path for you. They can also assist in migrating from certain other staple manufacturers' equipment. At the very least, they could carry out the extraction of the RSLogix 5 program and convert it to a Logix 5000 project, should you wish. Then, even if it's your intention to migrate to a non Rockwell Automation platform, you will now have the logic available for translation in a software environment that you do possibly have - RSLogix 5000 / Logix Designer.
Rockwell are indeed aggressively pricing customers away from these legacy platforms as OEM availability ceases or has ceased. That's "away" from both purchasing for new systems and for spares. The PLC-5 control system was officially retired last year after more than 30 years in service; testament to their longevity and reliability. But, customers have been pre-warned or advised that the end was nigh, for many years agone.
This platform is still going strong in many facilities today. Why? Well, besides the fact that they have lasted the test of time, customers have either not been aware of Rockwell's lengthy and ongoing migration campaign, long before they were retired, or they knew but have chosen not to migrate, or the process did/does not lend itself easily to a rip & replace or even phased migration.
While their longevity has been Rockwell's crowning glory for decades, it is ironically now the very reason that customers are railing against their passing. Customers, old and new, yes new, still have a healthy appetite for this trusted platform, and are censuring the decision to both cease their production and prohibitively price their procurement.
Alas, a line has, and must be drawn, somewhere. That "somewhere" was June 2017, and that line squares all the way back around to 1986, when the first Motorola 68000 based PLC-5 processor was released. It has served us well and may still continue to serve many for some years to come. But more sensible thinking should suggest we let it retire from service, rather than die on the job.
Do the decent thing here. Do not bemoan it's passing like a loved one you don't want to let go and the heavy cost involved in trying to hold on. Instead, celebrate its illustrious career, thank it for its loyal service and allow it gracefully retire into the annals of technological history.
57738 - Convert Legacy and Third Party PLC / HMI Programs
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Respectfully,
George