Siemens releases TIA v14

[rollinstone]

Hey guys has anyone tested new TIAv14? From what I've seen requirements are enormous

From siemens website

HDD: 50GB SSD
CPU: i5 3.4GHz
RAM: 16GB - recommended 32

Do they realise that we're mostly working on weaker laptops?

 

[JesperMP]

Here is a link:
https://support.industry.siemens.co...very-release-of-tia-portal-v14?dti=0&lc=en-DE

I think the PC requirements are OK.
Who does not have an SSD these days ?
RAM is cheap, but what may be a dealbreaker is that many low-end laptops only support up to 8GB.

Personally, it will be months before I have an opportunity to try out TIA v14.

 

[rollinstone]

Here is a link:
https://support.industry.siemens.co...very-release-of-tia-portal-v14?dti=0&lc=en-DE

I think the PC requirements are OK.
Who does not have an SSD these days ?
RAM is cheap, but what may be a dealbreaker is that many low-end laptops only support up to 8GB.

Personally, it will be months before I have an opportunity to try out TIA v14.

From experience - we'll have to wait at least for SP1

 

[Jeebs]

I think the PC requirements are OK.
Who does not have an SSD these days ?
RAM is cheap, but what may be a dealbreaker is that many low-end laptops only support up to 8GB.

Personally, it will be months before I have an opportunity to try out TIA v14.

We don't.
It took us months to get new PC's with i5's and 16GB approved. SSD's are a nono. Mobo used supports only 2 drives and 16GB of RAM.
Not all of us have the luxury to choose our equipment.

 

[mk42]

These days, a PC without an SSD just isn't worth using. It pays for itself so fast, in man-hours saved. It probably pays for itself just from speeding up boot/hibernate times alone.

It was just released today. I'm downloading it now, to start playing with it. I'm really hoping the team engineering improvements they were advertising help out.

 

[geniusintraining]

Hey guys has anyone tested new TIAv14?

Not until the sticker on the CPU's say V14 required... I also a few PC's (laptops and desktops) only two have SSD's the rest are old school and I will keep them as long as I can, I need to save my money for retirement

 

[Bedhes Putih]

Ya great - in theory. High spec laptop to support TIA but automatically comes preloaded with W10 - fine...downgrade it to suit TIA and you can't can't the drivers.

Not a question always of the laptop not supporting the ram, but the OS.
Whilst V14 isn't on the list yet V13 isn't compatible with W10 so what do I do for drivers for my new laptop?

 

[cjd1965]

IMHO the high requirement will make people reconsider their choices. If you have a team of say 10 people and you need to re-equip them it is a chunk of money to do so

I have been using SSD and would not consider going to a non SSD drive. a 500GB SSD is not expensive nowadays

 

[m_turk]

Where did you find these requirements, I can't find it..

I agree that the SSD is a must have now, but the rest of the specs seem a bit high.. Running it in a VM should be impossible if these are the real specs.

Funny, my rep told us a few weeks ago that it will run much faster, i guess he meant running it on a monster will be faster

edit: found it.. ok, at least those are the recomennded specs. we will se..

 

[Bedhes Putih]

Where did you find these requirements, I can't find it..

I agree that the SSD is a must have now, but the rest of the specs seem a bit high.. Running it in a VM should be impossible if these are the real specs.

Funny, my rep told us a few weeks ago that it will run much faster, i guess he meant running it on a monster will be faster

edit: found it.. ok, at least those are the recomennded specs. we will se..

I run S7 and flex on VM ware and it runs just fine with reasonable speed - I did install TIA v13 onto a virtual machine and it became really clunky... well I guess it would....it's never going to run faster than the the host machine....

I assume siemens are offering a PG preloaded? If so...is there a spec?

 

[mk42]

I run S7 and flex on VM ware and it runs just fine with reasonable speed - I did install TIA v13 onto a virtual machine and it became really clunky... well I guess it would....it's never going to run faster than the the host machine....

I assume siemens are offering a PG preloaded? If so...is there a spec?

The newly released pg m5 is basically exactly the minimum and recommended pc requirements. I dunno if a v14 image is available yet, but I assume it will be soon.

 

[ASF]

Those specs are ridiculous. Given that everyone is running VM's these days, and the VM's have to share resources with the host, it's going to be almost impossible to buy a laptop that can actually meet those specs in a VM.

Maybe that's the idea...sell more PG M5's...

 

[moggie]

Those specs are ridiculous. Given that everyone is running VM's these days, and the VM's have to share resources with the host, it's going to be almost impossible to buy a laptop that can actually meet those specs in a VM.

Maybe that's the idea...sell more PG M5's...

Typical of Siemens.....
Also -
why is TIA V14 not supported for use with Windows 10 (well until sp1) - windows 10 was released globally on 29 July 2015.
why no support for projects created in older versions of TIA - https://support.industry.siemens.co...arlier-versions-of-tia-portal-?dti=0&lc=en-WW

 

[MSe]

These specs are ridiculous. Tia portal does not include more functionality which was not possible to achieve with Step 7 and Protool. Version 13 could not even handle 400H plcs.

Granted: the cross reference works great. But this at the cost of a sloppy performance. I personally do not care for these 'fancy' user interfaces with all the side bars consuming all screen leaving just a tiny tiny programming window. After all it is just some ladder and some very simple graphics on little HMI's.