How to delete Acces Name which is using tags

andrzejplo · Jul 11, 2006

Hello, I have a problem with deleting Access Names. I have a message that "Cannot delete Access Name "PLC1" It is being used by 899 Tags" What did I do before to solve this problem: 1.I run Update use counts... 2.Delete unused Tags.. But here I donot see any tags from this PLC1 Access Name. How to delete this Access Name and delete these tags. Thanks for reply

krk · Jul 11, 2006

InTouch I presume?

The tags must be used in the application somewhere, use Special > Cross Reference to find out where, then delete all occurences of these tags.

Run Update Use Counts again and they should appear in the Unsed Tags list.

rdrast · Jul 11, 2006

They could also be flagged for alarming, or trending, in which case they are considered 'OnScan' at all times.

andrzejplo · Jul 11, 2006

krk said:
InTouch I presume?

The tags must be used in the application somewhere, use Special > Cross Reference to find out where, then delete all occurences of these tags.

Run Update Use Counts again and they should appear in the Unsed Tags list.

Ok but what to do when I see these Tags in Cross Reference but they are not connected with any object? How to delete them?
Thanks for reply

andrzejplo · Jul 11, 2006

rdrast said:
They could also be flagged for alarming, or trending, in which case they are considered 'OnScan' at all times.

How to delete them if they are flagged for alarming?
Thanks for answer.

wildswing · Jul 11, 2006

andrzejplo said:
How to delete them if they are flagged for alarming?

First, update use counts. Then open the tag explorer. Go to the bottom of that window. You'll see the filter. Create a new filter with "PLC1" access name. This will then list all tags in the application that use that access name.

Click on a tag to open the tag editor. There, you'll see a "delete" button. For those that won;t let you delete (button greyed out), run a cross reference to find out where they are used.

andrzejplo · Jul 11, 2006

wildswing said:
First, update use counts. Then open the tag explorer................

Ok but I have 5000 Tags to delete. Do you know how to do this faster?
Thanks for reply.

wildswing · Jul 11, 2006

WOW. 5000 to delete. Hmmmm. I'm not sure how to proceed if they don't show up in "delete unused tags". They must be being used in some scripts. You'll have to remove all instances where they are used before it'll let you delete the tags.

Do you have access to the Wonderware online support forum? Maybe posting your question there might get the attention of a tech support specialist.

rdrast · Jul 11, 2006

Export the tag database to a .CSV file, then manually edit that.

Re-import the tag database into a NEW project, then copy all windows and scripts to the new project, and do the required fixups.

It's a pain, but may be the only way to go with that many tags.

andrzejplo · Jul 13, 2006

I did a new project but while importing windows to a new project
I have a message:
ActiveX control {{8856F961-340A-11D0-A96B-00C04FD705A2}} not Installed” and I cant import all windows.
How to solve this problem?
Thanks for reply

rdrast · Jul 13, 2006

That means you don't have some ActiveX control registered on your system. What window is it? what control is it?

Also, ActiveX controls need possibly two registrations, one for run-time, and one for development. I can't help much beyond that without poking at your computer.

Tark · Jul 13, 2006

Another way to delete a large number of unused tags is to first create a backup copy of the application. Next create the tag database .CSV file with DBDump. Remove the unneeded tags in the .CSV file. Then in development use Delete Unused Tags command. Then perform a DBLoad with your updated .CSV file.

Anytime you do something major with an application, ALWAYS make a backup copy first.

OZEE · Jul 14, 2006

Also, make sure that the tags aren't used as indirects! Indirects don't show up in the cross reference!

I once worked on an application that showed something like 2000 unused tags, so I deleted them. They were all indirects, though -- so as soon as I deleted them, the indirects quit working. Fortunately, I had backed up the app before starting modifications.

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