No-break redundancy

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• Oct 23, 2012

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Hi fellow automation friends lol

Do you guys know no-break redundancy solutions? I need a good one. Any suggestions on companys/technologies?

I work at a chemical industry which has a specific process that cannot stop no matter what and sometimes even the no-break fails.

 

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• Oct 23, 2012

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What is it that must be "no-break".

Main power ?
Control power ?
The control system ?
Networking ?
Or what ... ?

 

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Actual nobreak is 10KVA. It holds up energy for entire CLP/Control System + 4 Electric Engines + few equipemnt.

 

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JesperMP said:

What is it that must be "no-break".

Main power ?
Control power ?
The control system ?
Networking ?
Or what ... ?

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"No Break" is a non-US phrase, which, to the USA ear, is a U.P.S.

 

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Seems that No-Break just means UPS.

Edit:
Seems it also means "I'm too slow to type a response"

 

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Oh. How could it be named "no-break" at Brazil? LOL. Weird..

Just googled UPS and found out it is Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS)

Well, anyway, any suggestion?

 

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• Oct 23, 2012

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Take your pick, I like "Powerware".

http://www.google.com/search?q=10KV...65260dfa26cefb&bpcl=35466521&biw=1588&bih=807

BTW, there is NO such thing as "no break" no matter how many UPS's you put on your system.

 

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• Oct 23, 2012

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Mickey said:

BTW, there is NO such thing as "no break"

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Thanks goodness, otherwise many of us would be out of a job...

 

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I looked at it as No Break meaning work all day with...well... No Break which seems to be the norm where I work

 

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• Oct 23, 2012

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Tharon said:

Seems that No-Break just means UPS.

Edit:
Seems it also means "I'm too slow to type a response"

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I've seen it used to describe a UPS with generator backup. So that the output is feed by the UPS until the stand-by generator gets up to speed and takes over running the system.

I've also seen it used to describe a large fly wheel (or other stored energy) that can keep a line-powered generator running when utility power is lost and has enough momentum to keep generating power until a diesel back-up can be brought on-line.

 

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http://www.euro-diesel.com/english_worldwide/system-description/110/2

 

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• Oct 24, 2012

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No break means online UPS - some are not online but have a changeover mechanism from mains to battery.