irondesk40
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attended a getting familiar with the new siemens tia portal and the rep said there was a document that there was a class that siemens taught that was allen Bradley to siemens.
has anyone been to any of these? They are very expensive and wonder if they are worth attending. The main reason I ask is because in the one day event I attended if I remember correctly there was at least 4 people who said they had been recently to a three day class that was programming in step 7 in ladder and I hate to say it but they appeared to be just as lost if not more lost than I was at the getting familiar with Siemens Tia portal ver 12. Siemens seems like it is pretty good but have done allen bradly and Omron and Mitsubishi and Idec and Automation Direct quite a bit over the last 30 years and none of them seemed as confusing as the Siemens. I challenged the guy giving on the one day event I attending at the end of it when he was open for questions to simulate the allen Bradley SCP (scale with parameter instruction and he could not find it in the new Tia portal. Said he knew there was something equal but was not able to duplicate it. He did say you could create your own SCP if needed. Well that is okay, I guess, but to me allen Bradley and Omron both have the instruction so if the siemens is so great then why do you have to create everything? Just my thoughts at the moment. Just finally getting a chance to look at the Siemens this week and at the moment it may be powerful but could not get over the fact the instruction leading the class kept saying now in siemens they have made it better and you can can now do this or do that and all I could think of was - heck, been able to that with allen Bradley for years. Hope I will feel different in a few months but actually spoke to a integrator last week and asked him if he did a lot of siemens projects and he said no, that he was spending a lot of time redoing controls that was done in siemens by other integrators because after it was all done the folks in the plants found it too difficult to understand and be able to maintain and troubleshoot if you did not attend training at thousands of dollars for each maintenance tech that went.
has anyone been to any of these? They are very expensive and wonder if they are worth attending. The main reason I ask is because in the one day event I attended if I remember correctly there was at least 4 people who said they had been recently to a three day class that was programming in step 7 in ladder and I hate to say it but they appeared to be just as lost if not more lost than I was at the getting familiar with Siemens Tia portal ver 12. Siemens seems like it is pretty good but have done allen bradly and Omron and Mitsubishi and Idec and Automation Direct quite a bit over the last 30 years and none of them seemed as confusing as the Siemens. I challenged the guy giving on the one day event I attending at the end of it when he was open for questions to simulate the allen Bradley SCP (scale with parameter instruction and he could not find it in the new Tia portal. Said he knew there was something equal but was not able to duplicate it. He did say you could create your own SCP if needed. Well that is okay, I guess, but to me allen Bradley and Omron both have the instruction so if the siemens is so great then why do you have to create everything? Just my thoughts at the moment. Just finally getting a chance to look at the Siemens this week and at the moment it may be powerful but could not get over the fact the instruction leading the class kept saying now in siemens they have made it better and you can can now do this or do that and all I could think of was - heck, been able to that with allen Bradley for years. Hope I will feel different in a few months but actually spoke to a integrator last week and asked him if he did a lot of siemens projects and he said no, that he was spending a lot of time redoing controls that was done in siemens by other integrators because after it was all done the folks in the plants found it too difficult to understand and be able to maintain and troubleshoot if you did not attend training at thousands of dollars for each maintenance tech that went.