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Old May 3rd, 2016, 01:13 PM   #1
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Question Control Logix Redundancy and Produced and Consumed Tags

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First of all, I've attached an image as reference.

What I am trying to accomplish is exchanging data between two control logix processors via produced and consumed tags. Simple right? Not this time.

What I have is two systems in question. The first is a simple, single processor setup with an ENBT ethernet card. The other, however, is an enhanced redundancy system with two processor/communication racks and two I/O racks.

Some more specifics regarding each system:
  • Panel A (from reference image)
  • 17 slot rack
  • Slot 0 - 1756-L71 Rev. 20.13
  • Slot 1 - ENBT/A Rev. 6.3
  • Panel B (from reference image)
  • Identical 7 slot racks
  • Slot 0 - 1756-L71 Rev.20.55
  • Slot 1 - RM2/A Rev. 20.004
  • Slot 2 - EN2TR/C Rev. 10.007
  • Slot 3 - EN2T/D Rev 10.6
Each rack in panel B is connected via an internal panel network ( via the EN2TR. The two identical racks are connected via fiber between the RM2 modules. Also, the identical racks are both connected to the plant scada network ( via the EN2T. There is also a panelview plus connected to the ETAP.

Everything within Panel B functions as intended. The problem is when trying to produce and consume tags on the plant network.

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The PLC in Panel A is configured to consume data from the PLC in Panel B. I've configured a produced tag in the PLC in Panel B, set it to "Allow Unicast Consumer Connections". I've added the PLC in Panel B to the project on the PLC in Panel A. I've configured the module with no rack connection and no time sync. All is well at this point. The problem arises when I attempt to consume that produced tag in Panel A. I get an error in PLC A from PLC B saying "(Code 16#000c) Service Request Error: Invalid mode or state for service request."

I read the documentation for enhanced redundancy and found a system configured with enhanced redundancy disallows unicast consumption but will still allow unicast production. As a test, I disabled unicast on both PLC A and PLC B to no avail.

If I've left anything out, please let me know and I will provide more info as needed.

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Old May 3rd, 2016, 07:33 PM   #2
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Welcome to the Forum!

Have you assigned the same IP address to the two EN2TR modules? These need to be set the same for Produce/Consume to work properly with Enhanced Redundancy systems.

It is possible to set them differently and the system will still SYNC, so it's not so obvious to spot.

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Old May 4th, 2016, 03:05 PM   #3
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Short answer, yes. They were configured the same.

Here's some more info.

Within the redundant system:
Rack 1
-EN2TR IP: Configured -; Actual -
-EN2T IP: Configured -; Actual -

Rack 2
-EN2TR IP: Configured -; Actual -
-EN2T IP: Configured -; Actual -

I believe that is intended as the redundancy module will assign the secondary controller the ip of the primary + 1.
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Old May 4th, 2016, 03:12 PM   #4
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Stupid question: Why not just use MSG?
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Old May 4th, 2016, 03:19 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by harryting View Post
Stupid question: Why not just use MSG?
I disagree, that is a great question. Ultimately, I did use a MSG instruction because it was part of a critical process at the plant. I'm seeking to expand my arsenal of knowledge for later projects so I'm not caught off guard in the future.

I prefer produced/consumed over msg. My reason is simple: It's harder for someone that doesn't know what they're doing to alter and potentially break a connection using produced/consumed than MSG simply because produced/consumed can't be changed while online.

I've only personally designed and implemented three plant wide SCADA systems. There may be other pros and cons to both that I am not aware of.
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