Siemens / TI 505, Workshop 505 Issues

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Is anyone experienced with Siemens 505 / FasTrack workshop 505? I have an old GE quick panel that has gone out and now must be replaced. Cant get the program out of it. No one has a documented copy of the PLC program, and no one has a copy of the Panel program. Have to rebuild the panel program from scratch for a new ProFace, but I need documented PLC program before I can even start that project.

I have the FasTrack workshop 505 software and the hardware key. Uploaded the PLC Logic and made an excel csv all of the address comments from the drawings for the inputs and outputs. Luckily the P&ID drawings also lists the "internal memory" addresses the inputs are mapped to. So about a 3rd of the memory bits and words are addressed, and the analog instruments reference the scaled values in the PLC program (the V addressed). Additionally I have documented all of the X and WX and WY and C bits and V word addresses that I can map directly to inputs or outputs, and documented a bunch of the analog scales in the SF section. What I can not seem to figure out is how to cross reference effectively, and how to view the data tables. Does anyone have any advise for this undertaking? I am at the point of pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to effectively cross reference. I have about 900 rungs that have NO user comments because they are all memory bits and words that are filled from operations that I have to sort out. I have done this plenty of times in S7 and Logix 500 and 5000. I am confident in my ability to understand the logic if I can figure out how to view some of these values that I know are setpoints. But since I cant tell what the data table values are and the outputs are going to memory addresses that are not commented, I can know that Compressor Cyl1 Suction Temp is the A that should be > or = to B, but not knowing what that B value is makes it so that the output of C3498 which crosses to a rung with 17 other AND components both NO and NC, I know this is all going to some sort of most likely a permissive, but permissive for WHAT?

If anyone has some tips on setting this thing up to view things more effectively, or how to display the data tables, and not have the ladder view return to network 1 every time I switch views, That would be a huge help. and how do you make the ladder networks wrap? RS Logix does this automatically, I remember in S5 having to do something with the view to make that work. But I cant figure it out with TI 505.
 
I've used workshop for years....it ain't rockwell so your not going to get some of the features.

For viewing data tables you create your own. Its called charts or data monitor. You'll be presented with a blank spreadsheet. Just start typing your addresses you want to know the values to. A quick short cut is F5...if you type V1 for example and then use F5 then it will enter V2 for you and so forth.

There is no find all or inline cross reference. You can use find and find next to find values. If you want to find the OTE you can enter OUT in the second part of the find dialog. Likewise you can search specific instructions this way. Another useful shortcut is ctrl-u. This will give you a table of addresses used.

As for the wrap it doesn't to my knowledge...you have to scroll to the end of the line. Keep in mind that workshop is mostly a glorified windows version of the old DOS tisoft. So it's not as polished as the newer software packages.
 
Hello

I have attached some screenshots of workshop 505.
Hopefully this will also help you.
If you have questions about instructions then please ask them and I will try to help you.

Kind regards
Henny

workshop_1.jpg workshop_2.jpg workshop_3.jpg
 
Henny, Dit is een enorme hulp. Heel erg bedankt. Ik maakte een CrossReference bestand en het raam switching houdt de vensters me op mijn positie in de verschillende windws, in plaats van naar beneden scrollen elke keer.
 
Hey guys, can either of you tell me what address I should monitor in order to see the time remaining on a ONDC timer in workshop 505?

For example I have a maintenance bypass timer that is set for 900 seconds, while this is active the coil status holds out several shutdowns in bypass in order to successfully start up a compressor.

I want to display the time remaining for the timer on the HMI so that operators can make sure to hit the reset button again and hold out the timer for longer. All I can seem to display is the preset time by monitoring TCC11 but its not counting down on the display
 
Hello

Preset timer is TCP memory. (Lets say TCP11)
Remaining time counting to zero when timer is running is TCC memory(Lets say TCC11).

When Preset is 10 seconds TCP = 100 with a normal timer, with a TIMERF 10 seconds TCP=1000 ( max value can be 32,767 seconds) ,standard Timer max value can be 3276,7 seconds.

Kind regards
Henny
 

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