rsdoran
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HNC is a 1 year certification program that may be followed by obtaining an HND (2 year program) then a Bachelor's degree.
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/HNC
When I first came here I got into several heated discussions about the attitude towards students, back then these questions got asked constantly.
I understand the question itself is stupid and in some cases the students are lazy BUT this coursework was designed years ago and they dont seem to offer textbooks with answers to some of these ridicolous questions. The program itself needs to be overhauled...IMHO.
The main problem is that many of these people are just kids that probably didnt get the education they should have when in grade school/high school (or whatever they call it over the pond). This issue is just as bad in the US. They throw books at them then give them tests but dont show or involve them in learning HOW TO LEARN....HOW TO ASK QUESTIONS etc.
To be a teacher requires a 4 year or better education, thorough background check in many places, involves long hours either doing an enormous amount of paperwork or dealing with 15 to 25 children that arent theirs. What kind of pay do they get? NOT NEAR ENOUGH. The salary range is somewhere between 25000 and 55000 in the US overall but dont expect to find many 3rd grade teachers making 55K.
Maybe these students could make more effort in alot of cases but I decided long ago to give them the benefit of the doubt. I try to give them the information they need to assist them in doing the work theirself.
What I do believe is that if you are derisive, offensive, etc towards a student then you are teaching them to be that way, they learn from example.
I will jump with both feet on a professional that makes a stupid statement or mistake....as I want to be jumped on if I do it. We have been around long enough to know better, these kids are just starting.
I will continue to offer things like the link I posted above to help these students (young or old) to help themselves. I dont believe the criticism etc is productive for them or the person that does it, it creates a habit that gets passed on from generation to generation.
Think about this:
When your 5 year old asks where babies come from do you tell him/her that the question is stupid? How many times has that question been asked?
If your high school/teenage child doesnt understand how to obtain the hypotenuse of a right triangle ....do you tell him/her they are stupid?
Many of you pride yourself in your abilities and professionalism but if an employer or customer asked you what a "brick" or that "blackbox" or ???..WAS then you would politely explain it.
Are you being derisive towards the students because you can with them but cant with the employer/customer?
These are just my thoughts on this subject. Please do not take offense because the statements are not aimed at any person(s) on this or any forum.
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/HNC
When I first came here I got into several heated discussions about the attitude towards students, back then these questions got asked constantly.
I understand the question itself is stupid and in some cases the students are lazy BUT this coursework was designed years ago and they dont seem to offer textbooks with answers to some of these ridicolous questions. The program itself needs to be overhauled...IMHO.
The main problem is that many of these people are just kids that probably didnt get the education they should have when in grade school/high school (or whatever they call it over the pond). This issue is just as bad in the US. They throw books at them then give them tests but dont show or involve them in learning HOW TO LEARN....HOW TO ASK QUESTIONS etc.
To be a teacher requires a 4 year or better education, thorough background check in many places, involves long hours either doing an enormous amount of paperwork or dealing with 15 to 25 children that arent theirs. What kind of pay do they get? NOT NEAR ENOUGH. The salary range is somewhere between 25000 and 55000 in the US overall but dont expect to find many 3rd grade teachers making 55K.
Maybe these students could make more effort in alot of cases but I decided long ago to give them the benefit of the doubt. I try to give them the information they need to assist them in doing the work theirself.
What I do believe is that if you are derisive, offensive, etc towards a student then you are teaching them to be that way, they learn from example.
I will jump with both feet on a professional that makes a stupid statement or mistake....as I want to be jumped on if I do it. We have been around long enough to know better, these kids are just starting.
I will continue to offer things like the link I posted above to help these students (young or old) to help themselves. I dont believe the criticism etc is productive for them or the person that does it, it creates a habit that gets passed on from generation to generation.
Think about this:
When your 5 year old asks where babies come from do you tell him/her that the question is stupid? How many times has that question been asked?
If your high school/teenage child doesnt understand how to obtain the hypotenuse of a right triangle ....do you tell him/her they are stupid?
Many of you pride yourself in your abilities and professionalism but if an employer or customer asked you what a "brick" or that "blackbox" or ???..WAS then you would politely explain it.
Are you being derisive towards the students because you can with them but cant with the employer/customer?
These are just my thoughts on this subject. Please do not take offense because the statements are not aimed at any person(s) on this or any forum.
